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Demogorgon's Clutches
Sorcery
Target opponent discards two cards, mills two cards, and loses 2 life. (To mill a card, a player puts the top card of their library into their graveyard.)
Saccox on
Liliana's Friends (Budget)
2 years ago
Hi Cheiromancer,instead of Mind Rot, Demogorgon's Clutches or Mind Drain,?
wallisface on
Orzhov Aristocrats return
3 years ago
Cards i’d recommend ditching:
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Demogorgon's Clutches, its a super weak effect for 3 mana. Consider Kaya's Guile instead
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Cathar Commando, its sideboard tech at best.
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Lightning Greaves, its edh-junk. If you’re super worried about removal, Unearth is better.
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personally i think Doomed Traveler, Dusk Legion Zealot, and Vengeful Strangler Flip are all too weak for what they do.
If you’re running cat combo, i’d suggest running to full 4-of Witch's Oven.
You’re at 65 cards, so should remove the chaff to get back to 60.
You care about death triggers but have few sac-outlets. Consider Viscera Seer or Carrion Feeder.
Another good way to generate constant deaths is Jadar, Ghoulcaller of Nephalia.
ClockworkSwordfish on
Creature Discomforts
3 years ago
Hey, discard can be a solid strategy now that there are so many cards to support it being a win condition, but there are a few aspects of your deck that stand out to me as maybe needing work!
The biggest problem is bound to be Ashiok's Adept - he only makes your opponent discard a card if you target him with a spell, and you currently have zero ways to do that. As is, he's just a 1/3 for three mana... not too exciting. Probably it's better to just cut him out rather than try to remake the deck to support him!
Another odd inclusion is Bridge From Below, which only has an ability so long as it's in your graveyard. How do you plan to get it there? Target yourself with Liliana? Probably this isn't the right home for it, either!
For your creatures, there are a couple upgrades I can think of that wouldn't be very expensive. Hypnotic Specter has got to be the best specter in the game, and I'd strongly recommend him over Abyssal Specter. Guul Draz Specter is a good alternative, too. If you're running to run a cheap guaranteed-discard critter like Ravenous Rats, then Burglar Rat is a small upgrade!
Mind Rot is also a card with lots of solid alternatives. Stupor, Unburden, Heartless Pillage and Demogorgon's Clutches are all just flat-out better!
Overall you have a solid chassis here. My main advice is to get the deck down to 60 cards and cut out anything that doesn't support your main strategy!
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