Before I start this challenge, I need opinions on whether a certain should be banned.
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Posted on Nov. 9, 2014, 1:47 a.m. by reverendvile777
Inspired by the Extended Deckbuilding Challenge, I started delving into the history of Extended. Before 2010 Extended was made up of the last 7 blocks rather than the last 4, which would make for an INCREDIBLE format right now. I wish to do a challenge for this style of extended, however there is one potential problem card. Deathrite Shaman feels like it would be absolutely oppressive in this format with all ten fetches and basically every piece of the pre-ban modern Jund deck.
So before I make the challenge, I want opinions. Should Deathrite Shaman be banned from this challenge? I'm in the camp of yes.
Going off the old extended banlists (and in the case of Stoneforge Mystic, common sense) I have also decided that Ponder. Preordain, Stoneforge Mystic, and Jace, the Mind Sculptor will also be banned for this. The legal sets will be everything from Shards of Alara to the present and all the core sets inbetween.
reverendvile777 says... #3
I'm glad you brought that up, I forgot about Mental Misstep (definitely banned). The only other card that would be in question would be Bloodbraid Elf which feels like it would not be a good ban - Jund would be very strong with it, but so would Naya brews and RG aggro. Banning it feels like it would hurt more archetypes than it would actually hurt Jund, especially since Jund can easily replace it Huntmaster of the Fells Flip or Olivia Voldaren, neither of which would do the same work in more aggressive builds that Bloodbraid Elf does. Do you agree, or am I still just really salty about the Bloodbraid ban?
November 9, 2014 2:11 a.m.
They're both pretty ridiculous. If you wanted to ensure not everyone was playing jund, then I'd probably get rid of both, but considering that there's no bob or tarmo, it could still be balanced against a field of pod and twin, not to mention the new Jeskai Ascendancy, and cruise delver, with pyro snap and swiftie. This format is sounding more and more broken the more decks I think about :) Maybe it would be balanced :)
November 9, 2014 3:25 a.m.
The last 7 blocks would basically give you modern. Effectively.
November 9, 2014 6:15 a.m.
gheridarigaaz says... #8
Ban both elves. Huntmaster of the Fells Flip isn't as strong as Bloodbraid Elf and if youre worried about r/g aggro and naya midrange being too weak, you could put an argument for the huntmaster in their cases too, maybe even Xenagos, the Reveler, though i think r/g aggro has two additional tools at it's disposal in Ghor-Clan Rampager and Hellrider. As for deathrite? My worry is that it would also work far too well with liliana of the veil.
Is Treasure Cruise worth considering banning?
November 9, 2014 7:08 a.m.
Dalektable says... #9
Yeah, I agree with ChiefBell going back seven blocks effectively you are playing modern at that point. Might as well just play modern or current extended, I am quite enjoying playing around with extended myself.
November 9, 2014 1:52 p.m.
reverendvile777 says... #10
It's definitely not modern without Mirrodin, Lorwyn, Ravnica, and Time Spiral blocks, way too many modern staples across those blocks to call this theoretical extended just modern. Anyways I had some discussions and decided on a banlist I think is fair, even if I really wanted Bloodbraid Elf to be reasonable (I tested some builds, and it just isn't fair lol).
November 9, 2014 2:06 p.m.
JexInfinite says... #11
I'd say just have a modern deckbuilding challenge with certain parameters. Makes the most sense.
Nigeltastic says... #2
wouldn't it make some sense for the banlist to be essentially the modern banlist?
November 9, 2014 2:03 a.m.