Varolz Hulk

Commander / EDH sickrobot

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Primer Update —July 18, 2017

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Brassmoose says... #1

If you manage to get hulk to go to yard without a sac out you can fetch phyrexian delver and a viscera seer/carrion feeder to hulk off

May 31, 2017 2:21 a.m.

AstralCodex says... #2

He doesn't need phyrexian delver - he has body snatcher in there already for that line.

June 2, 2017 12:33 a.m.

elfric says... #3

hey cool deck - finally a i find a golgari hulk list that looks tight at all cards.

regardless that i wouldn't know what to replace those with - but have you thought aboutPeat Bog or Blood Pet ?

they are not particular better than other cards but could add more overall ramp or be faster than maybe priest of titania or wall of roots.bog's strenght imo is being compact ramp. the more aggressive a deck needs to mulligan the more i like them as it can be like a land and a dork turn 1 in one card.pet's strength is in the niche scenario that you need to fetch mana in your hulk lines like caustic caterpillar.

another thing to consider is Abrupt Decay:

uncounterable and cmc2 but

Beast Within hits leyline of the void, linvala, elesh norn and maybe others that might disrupt you.

July 9, 2017 4:17 p.m.

sickrobot says... #4

Hey elfric, thanks for the feedback! On the subject of Peat Bog, I have considered adding in the charge lands (Hickory Woodlot as well), but recently, I have been running into numerous Blood Moon decks, and in those games, an extra swamp or forest makes all the difference. If your meta is different, I would suggest testing them out and seeing how they work for you. On Blood Pet, it has been itching for a spot for a while now, but there's just no card I would take out for it, you really need a critical mass of green creatures for Natural Order, and the deck is sitting just above that threshold. as for Beast Within, it is a great card, yes, but with access to black, there is cheaper creature removal such as Vendetta and Slaughter Pact to deal with Linvala, and due to how tight you will usually be running on mana, it just costs too much to make the cut.

July 9, 2017 4:29 p.m.

elfric says... #5

damn quick answer sickrobot.

the detail about Abrupt Decayimo is you pay the more to not make it not be a Natural State but more flexible. so i just thought beast is even more flex.

i see you are 100% spot on about the deck. cheers

July 9, 2017 4:48 p.m.

artichoker says... #6

Have you considered running Xantid Swarm for extra protection?

July 10, 2017 10:47 p.m.

sickrobot says... #7

Hey artichoker! I actually haven't really done much theorywork with Xantid Swarm or Hope of Ghirapur, althought I do have a reason for that. Generally, you are going to go turn 1 dork, turn 2 Varolz, turn 3 attempt a win. Trying to fit a 1 mana creature in on turns 1-2 can really hurt, and there's no way to give either haste in the deck, so they end up feeling very slow. Generally, the same spot that is filled by those can be filled by Autumn's Veil instead, which, while not a creature, has effective haste, as well as flash, so you can surprise blue players better. Thanks for the suggestion! They are definitely great cards, and have a spot in testing, they just don't make it into the deck right now.

July 10, 2017 11:19 p.m.

Hey, this deck looks really cool. I had a struggle on choosing either Jarad or Gitrog as my Golgari commander but this deck changed my choice. Also, do you have any budget recommendations for more expensive cards as I don't have the biggest wallet?

July 12, 2017 8:52 a.m.

sickrobot says... #9

Hey The_Llanowar_Elf, I've done a bit of playing around with budget versions of this deck, this is what I can recommend; For stuff like Bayou and any other expensive lands, I would replace them with Peat Bog and Hickory Woodlot first, then any after that with basics. For tutors, I would suggest trying to fit in more mana dorks that are not in the deck currently, such as Devoted Druid or Bloom Tender. Hope I could help.

July 12, 2017 4:04 p.m.

Thanks for the response, I appreciate it, it's always cool see new things in cedh scene.

July 12, 2017 4:44 p.m.

Grimfade says... #11

Heartless Summoning?

Works as your sac outlet for the ballista, makes hard casting hulk/mike a reality as well.

July 13, 2017 11:38 p.m.