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Time Stop Discussion
4 days ago
When two of your triggers occur at the same time, you get to put them on the stack in the order you wish. Each resolves separately. You would want to do this to get the result you want:
This is going to happen in the latter part of the Declare Attackers step during your Combat Phase, incidentally. You'll get a round of priority before each trigger resolves when you can activate Kessig Wolf Run (or cast Giant Growth or whatever else). Thus, you will pass priority on the first trigger and the stack becomes...
(bottom of the stack) -> Mage Slayer Trigger
And you have the Ventmaw mana in your pool. You'll activate the land so with your mana so...
Which you will allow to resolve, then allow the Mage Slayer trigger to resolve.
Remember your opponents are also passing priority for each of these, so they could potentially Time Stop or whatever else when they see what is happening as ever.
1 month ago
Lack of instants and protection worries me in a creature heavy deck. Sure you can bring zombies back, but possibly not quickly enough, and especially since your easiest win-con involves just having a boat load of zombies. I would suggest trimming down the creatures or artifacts a smidge, and stocking a few cards like Part the Veil or Time Stop or Trickbind in order to make good use of blue control in a pinch.
1 month ago
Consecrated Sphinx (draw engine that hits things)
Decree of Pain (Draw engine board whipe OR uncounterable board wipe with a draw)
Fierce Empath (Creature tutor that tutors creatures)
Forbid (With damia, the buyback isnt even that big of a drawback)
Green Sun's Zenith (ALL THE TUTORS!)
Increasing Ambition (MOAR TUTORS!)
Mystical Teachings (tutors!)
Phyrexian Delver (high value creature; only life point that matters is your last)
Protean Hulk (Stupidly high value creature they unbanned)
Putrefy (more removal because the deck needs it)
Sakura-Tribe Elder (Ramp and a blocker... just good)
Solemn Simulacrum (Ramp and draw... just good value)
Spell Crumple (Get tucked nerd)
Sylvan Tutor (Tutors = consistency = win)
Swan Song (Cheaper counters)
Tooth and Nail (Blightsteel Colossus + Torrential Gearhulk = crazy value; so many options)
Toxic Deluge (Awesome removal spell)
Venser, Shaper Savant (removal/counterspell on a creature)
Volrath's Stronghold (recur creatures with a land. Nuff said)
Vraska the Unseen (removal and a walker)
Worldly Tutor (Tutors = consistency = wins)
Asceticism (just counter stuff)
Collective Voyage (Symetrical, therefore not helpful)
Coiling Oracle (not strong enough)
Consuming Aberration (just a big fatty... but rarely game swinging)
Darksteel Citadel (I have no clue why you would need an indestructible artifact land)
Devastation Tide (Sorcery therefore too slow & you'll have better options)
Dissipate (You only need about 10 counterspells; this one is just a cut to make room for better cards since you had 11 counters)
Dissolve (getting replaced by Forbid)
Evacuation (better options available)
Far Wanderings (Slow ramp)
Horizon Chimera (I'm not sure you need the life gain so badly that he has to stay, and he's not here for any other purpose. I think you have enough gain with Scooze and Obnoxious)
Isochron Scepter (too likely to get you 2-for-1'd)
Kydele, Chosen of Kruphix (not good on its own)
Leyline of Anticipation (Your deck already has a good half of its castable cards at instant speed)
Naturalize (you are adding enough artifact/enchant removal... should be ok to cut)
Neurok Stealthsuit (just counter stuff)
Rewind (Expensive, and that untapped mana is so rarely relevant in my experience)
Rupture Spire (bad land, and your deck is stable enough with land)
Thing in the Ice Flip (too slow/not good on its own)
Thrasios, Triton Hero (you have tasigur and a ton of ways to tutor him up... probably dont need the "2nd copy" of tasigur)
Time Stop (it's just so expensive)
Exploration (to ramp up to Damia and then let her refill your hand letting you play tons of lands all the time)
Exsanguinate (This provides a wincon or a source of lifegain in a pinch... but I'm not sure you need lifegain that badly, and no good deck will let you kill them with a massive exsanguinate... so if you don't need it for lifegain, you just don't need it).
Courser of Kruphix (same lifegain boat... requires testing to see if he might be needed, although at that point it would be worth looking into boarding Horizon Chimera back in, or maybe running a Wurmcoil Engine).
Fierce Empath allows for a lot of stability with fetching, which is where I am trying to cut off some of the lower curve of your creature base when you have more powerful options available at higher costs, and can spend the first turns of the game trying to keep opponents off of pulling too far ahead of any one other player. Early turns can also be spend casting any of your many tutors to set yourself up.
Similarly I am trying to develop the deck with a lot of cards which have high power and also provide a high level of consistency by tutoring in one way or another, examples being Increasing Ambition, Protean Hulk, Mystical Teachings (which can fetch Torrential Gearhulk, Venser, Shaper Savant, Snapcaster Mage, and Teferi, Mage of Zalfir).
So these suggestions are supposed to bring about consistency in the deck and therefore achieve power by method of consistency. It makes the deck very slow and you'll have to get really good at shuffling and making snap decisions for finding cards from teh deck when you tutor, but from my experience playing control sharuum, consistency is king for control decks, and having just a few high power creatures should be enough to win you games.
1 month ago
1 month ago
@DrValium I really like the idea of Time Stop. The deck lacks the card advantage to be a real control deck so I generally use most of my counterspells to protect wipes, which this would be even more reliable at. I'll try it out. I ran It That Betrays and while it's strong I found that it wasn't worth the slot. Generally, more than 1 bomb in my hand just goes wasted, so I want to keep the number of bombs in the deck low. It That Betrays annihilates less than the other annihilators available and lacks any other evasion or board presence. Stealing permanents is great but it's win-more because you're (hopefully) dropping him after a wipe anyway. I think that in a very large multiplayer playgroup, more bombs would be better and It That Betrays would be a good addition because it builds momentum after a wipe, but I've just found it less reliable than other options in situations where one bomb is enough to finish the game.
1 month ago
Hello, have you thought about Time Stop as a card to help protect your stuff?
Also consider It That Betrays
2 months ago
@Gidgetimer: I agree with you in general, but in the presented case, it doesn't make a difference, and that's what I'm talking about. They described in detail what's on the board and in the opponent's hand, and I don't see any reason to assume that there are other cards involved we're not aware of. By context, it even seems evident that they were aware of this entire information at the time it happened, because otherwise, there'd be no reason to play around it in this fashion.
That said, Stratus Dancer could interrupt this play one way or another, and the only reason to play spells one by one is to not get hosed by Time Stop or Counterflux spells, none of which stand tall against split second. Unless I'm forgetting a very specific morph card or similar effect, this is a perfectly calculateable scenario.