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FlyingBattalion (Whenever Firemane Avenger and at least two other creatures attack, Firemane Avenger deals 3 damage to target creature or player and you gain 3 life.)
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Firemane Avenger Discussion
4 days ago
I know it goes against the flavor of your deck however Battalion creatures also benefit from Iroas. Odric, Master Tactician, Firemane Avenger, Frontline Medic, Legion Loyalist, and Tajic, Blade of the Legion all seem good. Other than Loyalist everything is budget.
5 days ago
Cards I think are very good in this deck:
Blade of Selves, Sunbird's Invocation, Nahiri, the Harbinger - These synergize with your game plan of casting a bunch of big Angels and beating down with them. They're also just individually powerful cards.
Cards I would heavily consider cutting:
- Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit - While the deck has a lot of nontoken creatures, most of the counters will end up on utility creatures, not Angels, and you don't have any synergy with +1/+1 counters.
- Blaze Commando - You have 5 total sorcery spells that deal damage, and all but Disaster Radius and Meteor Blast kill all your Elementals (and probably the Commando). It just isn't a fit for this deck.
- Firemane Angel - This card is just a lot of mana for an underwhelming creature. It's recursive, but you already have Defy Death and Gift of Immortality to recur creatures, and you're running so many big creatures that it's not a huge concern.
- Firemane Avenger - I'm not super sure on this one (it might be alright), but it feels very low-impact, and if you can attack with three creatures safely, you're probably in a position where you don't need a free Lightning Helix. This is probably one of the last cuts to make.
- Flamewright - This card just isn't doing anything this deck wants.
- Fumiko the Lowblood - Maybe I'm wrong, but this just doesn't seem like an effect this deck needs, especially after cutting the Humans side of the deck.
- Glory-Bound Initiate - Again, just too low-impact for Commander.
- Goldnight Castigator - I misremembered this one - it's not as good as I thought it was. Probably too low-impact, and dangerous (it puts a big target on your head when you take double damage).
- Hanweir Lancer - Do you really need first strike when all your creatures are probably better than anything your opponents will likely have? It beats deathtouch, but so does indestructible, and that also protects the creature from removal. We can do better.
- Hero of Oxid Ridge - Are 1-power creatures blocking Angels that often? Probably not. Without that relevant clause, this is a 4/2 with battle cry - not very relevant for a big creature deck. And it's not on theme.
- Iroas's Champion - See Glory-Bound Initiate.
- Jareth, Leonine Titan - This card is okay, but we can probably fill this slot with a better creature for the deck. One of the last cuts, most likely.
- Jor Kadeen, the Prevailer - This effect is powerful, but we aren't heavy on artifacts, so metalcraft is unreliable, and we aren't a deck that can make the best use out of it.
- Odric, Lunarch Marshal - We can get something very similar with Angelic Skirmisher, which is an Angel and does something on an empty board.
- Shepherd of the Lost - See Glory-Bound Initiate.
- Skyknight Legionnaire - See you-know-what.
- Sun Titan - This guy is awesome, but he's not likely to bring back much of value in a deck filled to the brim with big Angels.
- Thalia, Heretic Cathar - Is this an effect this deck really wants? If it is, Blind Obedience is an enchantment that hits artifacts instead of nonbasics, and also extorts (It is legal in this deck).
- Truefire Paladin See...yawn
- Victory's Herald - We're an ANGEL deck! We don't need to give our creatures FLYING! In all seriousness, this is very redundant with a deck made up of 30% fliers, 30% support spells, and 40% mana.
- Deathrender - This card is just kinda expensive and difficult to use, and it only lets us cheat out Angels we can just cast anyway.
- Banishing Light - This is a small upgrade, but Grasp of Fate is probably just better.
- Citadel Siege - This card draws a bunch of hate, but isn't so impactful it wins us the game (like Sunbird's Invocation). We can do much better.
- Curse of the Nightly Hunt - Like Fumiko the Lowblood, I'm not convinced we want this effect.
- Faith's Fetters - I'd rather run something more like Banishing Light as enchantment-based removal, because it deals with static abilities like, for example, Angel of Invention.
- Battle Hymn - This card is both really awkward (makes red mana when most of our expensive stuff is white) and not actually going to produce much mana outside of a token deck. We really don't need an effect like this one.
- Martial Glory - Our creatures are already big, so do we really need a combat trick to make them good? I don't think so.
- Ancient Amphitheater - We aren't running Giant tribal, so this is just a worse Wind-Scarred Crag 95% of the time. I'd rather run a basic, or a Reliquary Tower or something.
- Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Vivid Crag, Vivid Meadow - We're a 2-color deck - we really don't need to run what amount to tapped basics most of the time.
Cards I'm unsure about:
- The token cards: Adriana, Captain of the Guard, Sunhome Guildmage, Assemble the Legion, Cathars' Crusade - These cards are all great (and gave me an idea for a deck to build) but I don't think they're a fit for this deck. Either expand on the token plan, or cut these.
- Emancipation Angel - I don't think we need this? If it had flash, I'm all for it, but as it is I don't think we want to bounce our expensive creatures.
- Thalia's Lancers - I don't think we have enough legendary permanents that this is worth playing. If you end up adding more, then go for it.
- Meteor Blast - We're running white - we can get less expensive one-sided boardwipes, I feel.
- Nevermore - If we end up running ways to tutor up enchantments, this is a great silver bullet answer to almost anything, but even in that case, I think Gideon's Intervention is better most of the time. Maybe you run both?
Cards I recommend:
- "Voltron" cards - Since Anya can easily become indestructible and is already evasive, she's a good candidate for winning with commander damage. Loxodon Warhammer is already in the deck, as is Lightning Greaves, so we've got a head start. Some cards I'd recommend are:
- Swiftfoot Boots - Basically Lightning Greaves, but you can target the creature. If you intend to pile a bunch of equipment on Anya this is probably a better option.
- Grappling Hook - Gives Anya double strike, as well as helping you get rid of problem creatures (Remember Anya has flying, so a nonflier can't block her).
- Argentum Armor - Much like the Hook, this makes Anya a serious threat while helping deal with problematic permanents.
- Assault Suit - Get Anya attacking on everyone else's turns, too!
- Champion's Helm - Protects Anya while also making her big.
- Godsend - A bit pricy, but discourages opponents from attacking into or blocking Anya, and a combo with Grappling Hook
- Inquisitor's Flail - Anya's indestructible, so this card's downside is completely meaningless.
- Pariah's Shield - When equipped to Anya, this basically makes you invincible.
- Puresteel Paladin - If you go hard on the Equipment theme, this guy will put in work. Probably not the best if you stick with Angels, though.
- Stoneforge Masterwork - This one should be obvious.
- Steelshaper's Gift - Again, if you go deep with Equipment, consider this.
- Sword of the Animist - Ramp sword? Ramp sword.
- Sword of Vengeance - Give Anya every keyword ever printed on a creature. And +2/+0!
- Worldslayer - This one is just to silly to not bring up.
- Herald's Horn - Makes your Angels cheaper, and helps you draw them.
- Door of Destinies - This should be fairly obvious.
- Kindred Charge - This card will win you games, I guarantee it. Especially with stuff like Angel of Serenity.
- Vanquisher's Banner - Similar to Herald's Horn. Makes your Angels big instead of cheap.
- Angel of Sanctions - Banishing Light on a stick? That you can use twice? Seems good.
- Angel of the Dire Hour - Get 'em! Just don't play this on your combat phase.
- Angelic Skirmisher - Give your team some nice abilities, and on an Angel to boot!
- Archangel of Tithes - Makes life hard for token decks and discourages attacks.
- Aurelia, the Warleader - How are you not already running this? Well, whatever, I won't judge.
- Basandra, Battle Seraph - Prevents opponents getting tricky in combat, and helps deal with problematic utility creatures that are otherwise hard to get rid of.
- Exquisite Archangel - Saves you from death once, which damn well better be enough.
- Karmic Guide - Recurs your big threats which would otherwise rot in your graveyard forever.
- Linvala, Keeper of Silence - A hefty price tag, but an upgrade to think about. Completely shuts down powerful utility creatures and mana dorks (it doesn't care whether the ability is a mana ability).
- Platinum Angel - You literally can't lose. The purpose is obvious, although the target on your head is just as visible.
- Reya Dawnbringer - Basically a repeated Karmic Guide - who wouldn't love to make their Angels unkillable?
- Twilight Shepherd - Having this card sitting on the battlefield makes nobody want to boardwipe, since you just get all your creatures back anyway.
- Avacyn, Angel of Hope - Expensive, but well worth the price - it's really hard to deal with an indestructible field of anything, let alone big fliers.
- Hour of Devastation - Three mana boardwipes are quite strong, and this card almost always costs three mana in Commander. This one even hits artifacts, enchantments, and planeswalkers!
- Boros Charm - A versatile spell that can save you from a boardwipe, make an Angel a major threat, or just burn someone out of the game, if need be.
- Master Warcraft - Completely blowing out two opponents seems well worth four mana to me! If need be, it can even just be a Fog.
- Wear / Tear - Versatile artifact and enchantment removal.
- Return to Dust - Just like Wear / Tear. I put this one in basically every white deck I make.
- Swords to Plowshares - Spot removal that deals with just about any creature.
- Grand Abolisher - We wouldn't want any pesky blue mages countering our Angels, would we? Also has the upside of preventing combat trickery on your turn.
On the manabase:
I like that you put in so many mana rocks and lands (a lot of first-time deck builders might skimp in this regard) but the colors are a bit strange. You have more red sources than white, despite the fact you have more white cards than red. I would cut a few Mountains and replace them with Plains.
Obviously you can't run all of these recommendations, but pick the ones you like the best to fill the empty slots. Overall, I quite like the premise of the deck, but it could use a lot of polish.
1 month ago
I didn't think Kytheon, Hero of Akros Flip would be my best option, its just a cool card that is cheap. Gideon, Ally of Zendikar is an awesome card. I will have to try to find one of those, but I'm perfectly fine with just going with my Gideon, Martial Paragon until I can get my hands on one, especially since it costs 1/4 the price. I was already thinking of dropping the Firemane Avenger and Viashino Firstblade for the Legion Loyalists, so it is even better that you suggested the same. I think I kept those cards over others before because they go with my Legion's Initiative, but I have a lot of dual color creatures and taking 2 away for the Legion Loyalist isn't a big deal, because it still gets the +1/+0 and exile all creature cards. Is the 2nd ability of Legion's Initiative so that I can prevent damage to my creatures for a turn if I don't have Iroas, God of Victory preventing all damage?
I tend to not want to spend more than $15 on any single card, so it will be a while before I purchase some Aether Vial. Thanks for suggesting that card and also knowing that it is out of my price range at the moment. I hate it when someone suggests cards that cost twice the amount of my entire deck because they clearly didn't see how the deck was constructed.
Thanks for all of the help! It has been greatly appreciated.
1 month ago
I'm not huge on Kytheon, Hero of Akros Flip here, mainly due to the fact that I'm not sure you need him or even want him to flip. Honestly the best walker for this deck is Gideon, Ally of Zendikar but Martial Paragon in my opinion can be a decent top end. Zendikar would give you a ton more options, with tokens, anthem, and relevant attacker all being functions. Ajani Vengeant can be cool but lends itself more to mardu superfriends in my opinion.
Back to Kytheon however, he is a decent one drop being above curve and having the ability to have indestructible but once he flips what is his function, with Iroas, God of Victory you shouldn't be too bothered with indestructible, the +2 is an underwhelming version of the same ability seen on the original Gideon, and he isn't the best attacker, you can definitely make a case for him being above curve and all but honestly I think there are better options.
Also, I would drop Firemane Avenger and Viashino Firstblade for Legion Loyalist if you use it; and secondly, this is not a suggestion for right now as something I think needs to be added but as you move forward with the deck Aether Vial is a good card to keep in mind as something maybe months or years from now you may want to invest in.
3 months ago
if you need some life gain Firemane Avenger is good.
3 months ago
Also missing tons of angel cards
Not to mention the BEST boros angel commander and an include in any boros angel or kaalia deck
4 months ago
Combat Celebrant, Sun Titan, Boros Signet, Balefire Liege, Legion's Initiative, Thalia, Heretic Cathar, Firemane Avenger, Ogre Battledriver, Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder, Mother of Runes, Thalia's Lancers, fun combo possibly Restoration Angel +Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, more later but these could possibly be worked into the deck, ill leave a list of cards to cut later
4 months ago
I would recommend adding in several more mana rocks and a few more lands as well. There are also lots of cards in the deck that pretty much don't help you and can be cut. I will list some below:
Serra's Blessing - vigilance to all your guys doesn't really do much in general, especially when they come in tapped with Kaalia. Something like Dragon Tempest that gives Kaalia haste would be a much more useful enchantment.
Dread Cacodemon - it doesn't usually do anything other than be a vanilla 8/8, which isn't really what you are looking for in a Kaalia deck. You want your creatures to provide utility, be hard to get rid of, or be so destructive that your opponents are forced to get rid of them or lose. This could technically be hardcast I guess, but those occasions will be extremely rare. It doesn't destroy stuff when Kaalia cheats it out. This block applies to Reiver Demon as well.
Exalted Angel - unless you're super set on playing the entirety of FtV Angels, this card just isn't good enough. Other underwhelming cards I would consider cutting include Seraph of the Sword, Serra Angel, Serra Avenger, Voice of All, Subjugator Angel, Sunblast Angel, and Soulflayer
Firemane Avenger - Battalion is a little harder to do than you might think, and it has the problem of being a "when this attacks" Trigger, which doesn't happen when it comes down with Kaalia. The trigger not happening, by the way, can very easily be abused to great effect. See Rakdos the Defiler and Master of Cruelties (the latter of which, if unblocked and brought in with Kaalia, will immediately drop your opponent's life to 1, at which point Kaalia will deal two and kill them). I would cut Mana-Charged Dragon for similar reasons.
Things I would recommend adding:
A ton of two-cost ramp: signets, etc. It gets Kaalia out a turn earlier, unlikely Darksteel Ingot.
At LEAST two more lands. Probably more.
Swiftfoot Boots - slightly worse lightning greaves is still amazing
Graveyard recursion like Unburial Rites - sadly, your stuff will die :( Recursion mitigates that!
You could definitely be a lot more liberal with cuts than I have suggested here, but these are the edits that jumped out at me most. Check out my Kaalia deck Dies Irae for more inspiration! I'm very happy with the creatures I've narrowed that deck down to, so feel free to look through those for replacements for cards you have found not especially useful.
Finally, being mardu, you could consider a Sunforger package. Always a fun time.
I could go on quite a bit more about Kaalia things, but I am out of time. Check out my deck or ask questions if you want more help!
Thanks for reading and best of luck!