Unity (An Ally Tribal Deck)

Modern Nef

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Back to four colors. —Feb. 22, 2016

I wanna see where this goes. Jwari Shapeshifter is powerful.

ehuez says... #1

great deck! maybe consider more Lantern Scouts or some Ondu Clerics I would replace them for Adaptive Automaton and Firemantle Mage.I think that the lifes which these cards can generate are needed in every game so I would run any combination of 4 cards which can give you lifes.

February 2, 2016 4:33 p.m.

Nef says... #2

It's definitely a consideration. I feel as if I want 5 pseudo unblockable effects in the deck tho. After some testing I'll find out. Thanks for the suggestion and taking a look.

February 2, 2016 7:34 p.m.

jtforkner says... #3

I've been playing Allies for a bit and I must say that for the most part I like your deck list. However I am curious why you don't run Mirror Entity or Firemantle mage. Does the Harabaz Druid really help forward your strategy of aggressive allies? Do you need 3 of the lantern scout in the main (I do think that it would be good to have 3 Lantern Scouts in the 75, but maybe only 2 in the main). Have you thought of Thalia, Gaddock Teeg, and Eidolon of Rhetoric in the sideboard? I'd like to know your thoughts. Also, I think that Collected Company is a fantastic card though if you switch it out for Aether Vial you have a little more flexibility on using instances, sorceries and enchantments I'm not sure if this is correct, but Hardened Scales, Aether Vial, and Hada Freeblade all make excellent turn one plays.

I am asking for insight as much as I am throwing out suggestions, I am new to the competitive scene and recognize there might be something I am missing.

February 16, 2016 11:06 a.m.

Nef says... #4

Hey im in school so I only have mobile access at the moment and I can't really type a long message because it'll take forever. I'll talk about what you mentioned at the end of your comment. I am trying to do a vialless ally deck rn to get around Kolaghan's Command and because I can't afford them. I think coco is beastly because it bounces back from boardwipes and can do instant speed shenanigens and get two triggers. It provides card advantage where vial doesn't. It's also much much more impressive to top deck. I'll respond to the rest of your comment when I get home

February 16, 2016 12:24 p.m.

Nef says... #5

As for mirror entity; I am still considering it as a one of but it is just so frail by itself that it is easy to remove and doesn't really provide any immediate impact which is what we really want for this kind of deck. And I am currently testing out a Lantern Scout over a Firemantle Mage atm. Lantern Scout is good in an aggro matchup and aggro decks are popular lately. But Firemantle Mage is impressive vs eldrazi and affinity which are also popular so I may have to find room for 3 lanterns and 1 firemantle. As for Harabaz Druid; it can allow a T3 CoCo which is fantastic, it can help dump creatures from our hand to play on turn 3, but I do think that it does work well with Mirror Entity. as for Hardened Scales; it is a pretty good card and there are ally decks where I think it belongs. Sadly this is not one of them. Not enough of our cards use counters for it to be really good IMO. It is also impressively bad when top decked whereas Expedition Envoy can at least give us a trigger and get 2 power on the board.

February 16, 2016 2:08 p.m.

jtforkner says... #6

Thanks for the response! It was very insightful, as soon as the last couple cards come in I will be testing your deck out with an slightly different sideboard.

2x Boros Charm1x Gideon, Ally of Zendikar2x Kataki, War's Wage2x Thalia, Guardian of Thraben2x Ondu Cleric1x Gaddock Teeg2x Eidolon of Rhetoric1x Spellskite2x Wear / Tear

My reasoning being in my area I haven't seen a huge amount of enchantment-centric decks. Eidolon counters Storm hard and can be grabbed with CoCo. Gaddock Teeg shuts down a Return to Ranks and Abzan CoCo, among others. Thalia makes it hard for removal to go off counters Storm as well as Infect.

February 16, 2016 6:02 p.m.

Nef says... #7

Sounds reasonable! Boggles is a thing near me so enchantment hate helps va that. And it gets blood moon.

February 17, 2016 5:38 a.m.

jtforkner says... #8

I gotcha, if I start seeing Boggles show up I might add them back in, however I think Thalia does disrupt Boggles as well. I rarely see them get more than 3 lands in a game so it should make it hard for them to stack enchantments and race you when everything they do costs extra mana. The Blood Moon could be an issue though with twin gone the best deck that used moon is banned. As much as I think Blood Moon is an amazing card I can't really think of anyone who uses it at the moment other than Blue Moon, some Delver and some Jund lists. Though with the Eldrazi scourge dominating Modern, we might see a resurgence of Blood Moon.

February 17, 2016 9:58 a.m.

Nef says... #9

Have you seen the free win red deck? It uses moon. I need to get to my lgs when I can to test it. I've been so busy. What are your thoughts on Natural State over Wear / Tear

February 17, 2016 11:04 a.m.

jtforkner says... #10

I hadn't even thought of that! I love Wear/Tear, but in the Ally deck there aren't any Enchantments or Artifacts that really hurt you. Night of Souls' Betrayal and Batterskull could be problematic, but I don't think people will bring in Night and Batterskull doesn't have a home in any popular decks at the moment. The Leylines are all 4 CMC, but don't do anything to you, so no worries there. In this deck I think Natural State might be better.

February 17, 2016 12:24 p.m.

Johanson69 says... #11

The only relevant thing that springs to mind and doesn't get hit is Worship. Maybe Sphere of Safety. Ensnaring Bridge and Ghostly Prison are a bit more prevalent and shoudl get hit. I still wouldn't only play Natural State, but rather Reclamation Sage, Qasali Pridemage or Dromoka's Command on top of it.

February 17, 2016 2:59 p.m.

jtforkner says... #12

Though I don't think we will see to many people running Worship (I can think of one deck list I have seen run it and it's not popular) or Sphere of Safety at a GP or Pro Tour. Johanson has point you can hit Reclamation Sage and Qasali Pridemage with your Collected Company, which is pretty sweet. I think that your best option is Qasali Pridemage since he can stick around till you actually need to destroy an enchantment or artifact. Otherwise just stick with Natural State.

February 17, 2016 3:26 p.m.

Johanson69 says... #13

Well any white creature based deck can play Worship, heck I'd consider playing it in the board if it weren't for the prevalence of infect damage (at least Affinity + Infect itself).

But I agree that generally Sage and Pridemage can do good work. Depending on the meta, one could also rather go for Ray of Revelation and Ancient Grudge for card advantage, but that's just generally the case for SB choices.

February 17, 2016 6:54 p.m.

Nef says... #14

Nice little discussion. I was at work xD I have to see what my meta is but the reason I like Natural State over one of the creature options is that it is only 1 cmc and is instant speed. That can be very helpful.

February 17, 2016 7:57 p.m.