Mikaeus, Extreme Sub $20 Budget EDH

Commander / EDH Sleazebag

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Resetting Discussion! —Dec. 24, 2014

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thegigibeast says... #1

@[TwoMagicDudes] @[Orbrunner]

Easy steps to go infinite with cauldron of souls:

1) Have Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, Cauldron of Souls, Dross Scorpion and a sac outlet in play.

2) Tap the cauldron, then sac your scorpion.

3) It will come back, then untap the cauldron.

4) Sac the scorpion again, but this time let persist trigger instead of undying.

5) Rinse and repeat (it will enable you to infinitely sacrifice all other creatures too).

November 30, 2014 11:49 a.m.

Sleazebag says... #2

thegigibeast: That works and all, but it would require me to run Dross Scorpion which doesn't combo with anything in my deck (still a really good combo enabler).

(One more vote/like please)

November 30, 2014 12:59 p.m.

Sleazebag says... #3

Woot, 400 likes!

November 30, 2014 2:05 p.m.

pleasuresaurus says... #4

I just finished playing - ooops....I meant winning ;) - 2 rounds of EDH just now piloting this deck and Sleazebag bro, I got to hand to you man, this is deck is something else. When it kicks in, it just goes boom. Now my casual group playmates are starting to co-op against me by default!

Anyways, one of the guys had used the Sworn to Darkness Commander 2014 deck and I was on the receiving end of a rather interesting and possibly useful card in there that I'd want to suggest - Syphon Mind. Its a USD 0.14 card that both impedes opponents and gives us card draw - the more opponents the better!

December 1, 2014 12:31 p.m.

Sleazebag says... #5

pleasuresaurus: Glad to hear man, and I have no idea why I'm not playing that card! 4 mana draw 3 in itself is enough, the discard is just gravy. There are so many awesome cards I see being played all the time that I just forget to consider for some reason. No excuse to not run this in mono black.

In 3 player matches it is still good enough due to the discard, terrible 1v1 though, but 1v1 isn't what this deck was made for.

December 1, 2014 3:03 p.m.

Rmasurel says... #6

Great work! Looks super fun to play too. There is a YouTube channel dedicated exclusively to building budget magic decks: Budget MTG Decks

December 2, 2014 11:05 a.m.

Dead_Anarchy says... #7

Oh hey look... one of the rare decks I shall be adding to my UNF folder and this one I most likely will buy and just go to town on my friends with....

December 2, 2014 1:02 p.m.

pleasuresaurus says... #8

Here's another suggestion I attempted to try out yesterday, but got defeated before putting it to use: Unexpected Potential

It comes in directly into the command zone (and I believe it doesn't factor in with our 99 deck cards, right?). We name Mikaeus and can then use any of our colorless mana producers to bring him out. I feel that for the early game, this is useful, especially when we're short of swamps and need it to bring out a sac-fodder at the same time.

December 3, 2014 12:09 a.m.

Schmidty says... #9

Pretty sure all conspiracy cards are still banned in EDH

December 3, 2014 12:50 a.m.

Hurmm...this is confusing. I was looking at this page here and conspiracy cards weren't on the list. Is there a more up to date banned list?

December 3, 2014 1 a.m.

Orbrunner says... #11

They are banned in EDH because they are banned in Vintage.

December 3, 2014 1:03 a.m.

fenriskiba says... #12

pleasuresaurus, you should always look at the official EDH site under Deck Construction for EDH banned list (EDH is not a WotC created or run format, this is where the rules for it actually come from)

It is specified on that page that it uses a (heavily) modified version of the Vintage banned list

December 3, 2014 2:34 a.m.

Sleazebag says... #13

All Conspiracy type cards are illegal in ALL formats excluding conspiracy draft.

Cards from the conspiracy set itself are legal however, just not the conspiracies themselves.

December 3, 2014 9:57 a.m.

There's a better version of this deck thats cheaper and has either more, or the same amount of infinite combos, but it has a score of 0 and only has 260 views....

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mikaeus-the-unhallowed-edh-12-budget/

check it out

December 4, 2014 12:20 a.m.

crawler3 says... #15

of course you would go and advertise your own deck

December 4, 2014 12:36 a.m.

yep. yes i would. also, you noticed, so i guess its werking. :)

December 4, 2014 12:38 a.m.

Sleazebag says... #17

@DERPLINGSUPREME Uhh, when you rip off someones deck and pretend it is yours, one of the dumbest things you can do is to go to the ACTUAL creator of the deck and brag about it.

You copy-pasted the decklist and even the description straight off here:

http://www.mtgdeckbuilder.net/Decks/ViewDeck/mikaeus-the-unhallowed-edh-12-budget-356179

(Maybe the fact that the username is the same should have ticked you off?)

Also, the version you ripped off is two years old. It's laughably weak compared to the current version which I have been streamlining for well.. Two years.

December 4, 2014 2:11 a.m.

Sleazebag says... #18

I tried looking into the decks he posts and pretty much all of them are ripped off from other sites.

Like "his" Mono-R control with Jaya Ballard! deck which is stolen from:

http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/217038-mono-r-control-with-jaya-ballard

Mikaeus infinite combos $12 Budget which is stolen from (me):

http://www.mtgdeckbuilder.net/Decks/ViewDeck/mikaeus-the-unhallowed-edh-12-budget-356179

The riddle of the $350 Impulse Purchase stolen from:

http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh/multiplayer-commander-decklists/568713-alexi-zephyr-mage-and-the-riddle-of-the-350

I'm sure there are more but I won't waste more time on this, any way of having this user banned?

December 4, 2014 5:09 a.m.

Prima says... #19

Altar of the Brood, Blood Bairn, Mortician Beetle(upgrade section), and Swarm of Bloodflies I play a lot of standard, so 3 of these suggestions make sense. Haven't checked the deck to see if these cards have been added, sorry, I don't have the time to read it.

December 4, 2014 8:27 p.m.

Sleazebag says... #20

Prima: I really like the Mortician Beetle suggestion, and it's only $0.15 actually! The others are too expensive really, Altar of the Brood doesn't work in my meta due to eldrazi but it is a great addition if they don't run it. I used to run Blood Bairn but took it out since I have so many other 3 drop sac outlets I didn't need more at that cost. The swarm of bloodflies is cool but it costs too much for not being able to sacrifice creatures itself.

December 4, 2014 8:42 p.m.

Great idea for a deck, love the in depth explaination too. +1 for you sir!

December 5, 2014 11:44 a.m.

Thanks for the heads up fenriskiba, much obliged. Btw, any thoughts on Bottomless Vault for mana?

December 6, 2014 3:54 p.m.

thegigibeast says... #23

@pleasuresaurus Bottomless Vault would be good at the begining of the game, but I think it would be a dead draw in mid game/late game. I must say I like those lands a lot, because I use them in a Paradox Haze deck. Because of the errata, we put a storage counter at the upkeep, and in this deck I can go up to 4 or 6 upkeeps, so those lands are worth it!

December 7, 2014 9:08 a.m.

Hi all, been quiet here this past week so I thought I'd chime in.

We're starting up an EDH league over here at my place and after all the testing, I realize that having a single wincon in the form of Mikaeus, the Unhallowed can be dangerous in the sense that once opponents realize this is the only way we roll, we're screwed. Aside from getting countered and burned, there's also getting stone walled with land destruction cards like Decree of Annihilation. I'm wondering whether it would make sense to add either:

A) another alternative wincon that can go infinite without good guy mikaeus?

or

B) protection for him?

Mephidross Vampire works well with Triskelion but due to the price, is an upgrade at best.

One idea was to chain spells like Exsanguinate and Bitter Ordeal with Ashnod's Altar+Nim Deathmantle+Dread Drone. The infinite combo would then be able to stand alone independent of the Commander. Still, that requires us to have a lot of cards in place.

Another thought I had was to use Phyrexian mana based cards in our deck like Noxious Revival for graveyard retrieval and Apostle's Blessing to protect a key combo piece since it covers both creatuyres and artifacts.

By the way, found another 2 possible sac fodders that might be of interest:

Gwyllion Hedge-Mage

Murderous Redcap - this one would work nicely with just a humble Ashnod's Altar

December 15, 2014 6:29 a.m.

Sleazebag says... #25

pleasuresaurus: Your train of thought is a good one, and is definitely what you aim for with a less budget version of mikaeus. The "goodstuff" required isn't cheap enough for the ridiculous restrictions. The moment you add cabal coffers, necropotence, demonic tutor and other amazing black cards this becomes a more reliablw approach

As for your two suggestions, unfortunately they count as white/black and red/black and can't be run in monoblack. I wish I could run redcap!

December 15, 2014 7:04 a.m.