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| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
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| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Rules Q&A
Hearthfire Hobgoblin
Creature — Goblin Soldier
Double strike
DemonDragonJ on Why Do Some People Wish …
9 months ago
On a recent post on Mark Rosewater's Tumblr account, Rosewater himself stated that he wished that he could change how EDH handles hybrid cards, which again triggered the never-ending debate of hybrid cards in that format (and, for the record, I believe that hybrid cards are multicolored, and should not be allowed in decks whose general does not contain that color; i.e., Hearthfire Hobgoblin would not be allowed in a deck with Akroma, Angel of Wrath as the general), but some users were even saying that the entire philosophy of color identity should be abolished and players should be allowed to use any cards in their decks.
I most vehemently disagree with those players, since the philosophy of color identity is the very foundation of EDH format (combined with its singleton nature); it is a restriction that promotes creative deckbuilding and encourages players to think strategically, so eliminating it would entirely ruin the format, and I hope that the majority of other players and/or users on this forum shall agree with me on this matter.
What does everyone else say about this? Why do some players wish to eliminate the concept of color identity, and do you agree that it is important to keep that philosophy in EDH?
Blobby_Bobby on
Iroas Commander Deck
2 years ago
Hearthfire Hobgoblin is really good with anthems and helps a ton with Iroas devotion too.
AMD5150 on
That's a lot of Goats!
3 years ago
you could really streamline this deck, add Balefire Liege & reduce Hearthfire Hobgoblin and maybe dump the 4 Instants and work on your lands a bit. add Spitemare cos it would be killer with Wave of Reckoning with all the +1's you have so add a few more... just a thought
DemonDragonJ on
Righteous Wrath
4 years ago
I have replaced Wear / Tear with Duergar Hedge-Mage, because, while it is nice to be able to destroy two permanents whenever one could cast an instant, having a creature is generally better.
I also have replaced two lands in this deck with two additional copies of Hearthfire Hobgoblin, since I was getting mana-flooded too often when I played this deck, but I do not expect that I shall have that problem as frequently, now. The average converted mana cost of this deck is now 2.71, but that is not a major increase from what it was, before.
LarryAction on What is Your Opinion of …
4 years ago
Yeah, no shit DemonDragonJ, I'm saying it shouldn't matter. What the flying fuck did I say that made you think I didn't understand what makes a card a certain color?
"Cards in a deck should match their commander's color because Scourge of the Nobilis will give the same bonuses to either Hearthfire Hobgoblin or Iroas's Champion"
You sound like a complete wanker.
DemonDragonJ on Skyknight Legionnaire or Sky Terror?
4 years ago
I have four copies of Skyknight Legionnaire in my red/white deck, but I am contemplating replacing them with four copies of Sky Terror, due to that card's lower cost. While the legionnaire perfectly fits the aggressive theme of this deck by having haste, the terror can be summoned earlier, thus allowing me to cast a different spell on my third turn, such as Hearthfire Hobgoblin or Scourge of the Nobilis. Also, haste is good for only a single turn, while menace remains useful for as long as the creature is on the battlefield.
What does everyone else say about this? Should I replace Skyknight Legionnaire with Sky Terror?
DemonDragonJ on What is Your Opinion of …
4 years ago
LarryAction, except that they are not either color, they are both colors; for example, Scourge of the Nobilis will give the same bonuses to either Hearthfire Hobgoblin or Iroas's Champion, so, by that logic, I stand by my opinion that only a general with both colors in their color identity should allow hybrid cards.
wereotter on What is Your Opinion of …
4 years ago
Hybrid mana cards were meant to be card that could be either color, and are not a color pie break if the card exists in only one of the two colors used to cast it. So to that end, I would say that hybrid mana should be allowed in EDH in decks that can cast them with only their basic lands.
To use your examples, Hearthfire Hobgoblin has its monocolor counterparts in Fabled Hero (which is the same card with an up-side) and Markov Blademaster (which is initially weaker but if it hits an opponent on its first attack will actually be stronger)
But for an even more perfect example of how hybrid mana is just one card that could have otherwise been two separate cards, I think Nature's Chant is the perfect example. Disenchant and Naturalize were already color shifted versions of the same card that showed that for 2 mana both green and white can destroy artifact and enchantments at instant speed. Nature's Chant is a card that is both cards smashed together into a hybrid version of the same effect.
There may be examples out there.... but for me at this point, I can't think of any example where a hybrid card breaks the color pie.
