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Changed the decks name again - —Oct. 9, 2015

All in on defense and win conditions. and lots of sacrificial suicide.

Thanks! to everyone who commented and upvoted earlier

Orangepanda01 says... #1

Gleam of Authority could be an all-star in this deck if you attach it to Managorger Hydra or Avatar of the Resolute since they have trample.

October 6, 2015 5:48 p.m.

PlagueRats says... #2

I love Gleam of Authority, I was playing four of them here before the last changes. The problem is that it loses 2 for 1 against any removal and takes up the spot of a good creature. It was always the first thing to sideboard out. I am considering it for the sideboard against decks without much removal, but there aren't too many of those and against them I already want Valorous Stance and Tragic Arrogance.

October 6, 2015 8:47 p.m.

syandell86 says... #3

PlagueRats What do you think of Warden of the First Tree instead of Endless One?

October 6, 2015 9:04 p.m.

PlagueRats says... #4

I've seen other g/w counter decks with way more white cards where Warden of the First Tree looks good. Here the double and triple white are tough.

I really like how Endless One always has counters on it. So it always combos with Hardened Scales, Avatar of the Resolute, and Abzan Falconer. Without a ton of white mana Endless One is going to be better late game too.

October 6, 2015 10:40 p.m.

devinwr85 says... #5

Hey Plague I got a question I have been running G/W Growing Pains counters deck and I just recently brewed a Abzan Abzan Growing Pains counters deck. I am curious as to why there a Flooded Strand and Wooded Foothills in the land base? I have never know or have yet to realize why i see it in peoples decks if you could enlighten me that would be super great thanx +1 from me

October 7, 2015 12:47 a.m.

PlagueRats says... #6

The fetch lands are all about the new dual lands. Canopy Vista is a forest and a plains. I went with one of each Flooded Strand and one Wooded Foothills just because I had to buy them and want to be able to use them in a EDH deck later, otherwise Wooded Foothills is a little better because this deck needs more forests then plains.

October 7, 2015 1:28 a.m.

devinwr85 says... #7

OK i see benefit now XD not a bad idea thanks plague

October 7, 2015 1:32 a.m.

syandell86 says... #8

PlagueRats
Have you done testing? I'm trying to see how much better Evolutionary Leap is than protection such as Valorous Stance in the main board. It might be my meta, but I find I need more protection than what Evo. Leap can give.
I do love the synergy it has with Servant of the Scale & Hangarback Walker. Like, that's what WotC made the card for, I'm sure. Lol.

In regards to Endless One I do like that it gives the option of a 1 drop if absolutely needed, and also a mana dump in the end. I'm just not sold because of the "it doesn't do anything else" thing. All my other cards seem to do other things, but it's a good card. Maybe Rot Shambler is better in its place. Have you tested both?

October 7, 2015 10:28 a.m.

PlagueRats says... #9

syandell86 So far I've only played some casual games with this current list, I've spent a lot of time trying stuff out with Tappedout's playtest program. When I decided on all four Evolutionary Leap I actually had Rot Shambler in place of Endless One. It is really cool to sacrifice a Servant of the Scale to Evolutionary Leap with a Hardened Scales and a Rot Shambler in play! The problem is Rot Shambler sucks to top deck late, and is worthless if your already winning. I'm going to try it out some more, it may be worth it just for style. I wish I could have both, but I don't want to cut anything and I think you want four or nothing. It's good played early and in multiples.

I played a few games that went really long that I would have most certainly lost without Evolutionary Leap. I was chump blocking and sac'ing a creature or two every turn to stay in the game against big Eldrazi. I finally got an advantage and won with only two life and two creatures left in my library.

I played three games in a row without drawing a single Hardened Scales I still won, but it was tough. I feel like this deck needs to get lucky to really go off, but Evolutionary Leap lets you get away with chump blocking when needed to buy yourself turns if you don't draw cards in a good order.

October 7, 2015 11:13 a.m.

syandell86 says... #10

Oh lord, you changed it to Rot Shambler. Do more testing?

October 7, 2015 4:41 p.m.

syandell86 says... #11

I'm going to try out my current list. A bit updated.

October 7, 2015 5:57 p.m.

cdunn92483 says... #12

I run something similar, and recently found a speed bump to get around playing abzan. When trying to combo hangarback with evo leap anafenza foremost and any exile removal shuts it down.

October 8, 2015 9:35 p.m.