Minor Gods of theros
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Posted on Sept. 24, 2013, 3:21 a.m. by TheDarklight
From reading flavour texts and planeswalkers guide I have come up with the following minor gods (ones with * are what they acually are the god of the others are just guessing due to the flavour)
Athreos WB god of souls
Pharika GB god of poison*
Keranos UR god of storms
Kruphix GU god of dance (this one is assumed name)
Iroas WR god of war*
Karametra GW god of health*
Mogis BR god of war*
Ephara UW god of wisdom
I have not found anything on blue/black or red/green ones yet. Im guessing red green may have something to do with Xenagos so called godhood acension thats going around but we will have to see later.
Arena Athlete refers to Iroas as the God of Victory, not War. That may be a sub-domain though.
September 24, 2013 5:03 a.m.
TheDarklight says... #6
@ Whallbu49: wow i completely missed that guy. And I would agree with that myself.
@ dritz: the only reason I said war is in the planeswalkers guide it says that Mogis and Iroas are the twins of war. so it was conflicting and decided to just leave at that for the time being.
September 24, 2013 10:27 a.m.
harrydemon117 says... #7
Doesn't war take two sides? I mean, you can have a massacre with only one side, but it takes at least 2 to have a war. It would make sense to have twins be the "gods of war" as their minions would always be playing their "game of war"
September 24, 2013 1:42 p.m.
RedKunoichi says... #8
I'm pretty sure in actual mythology, many of the gods have overlapping domains. such as Athena and Ares, who are in fact both gods of war.
September 24, 2013 6:29 p.m.
TrollNtrample says... #9
@GinjaNinja
Kinda.
Athena is first and foremost the Goddess of Wisdom. But yes, she is also noted for strategic warfare. And Ares is more along the lines of the bloodthirsty, frenzied aspect of war.
Also, I'm not trying to correct you, just share some useless information I've picked up in case others were curious about Greco Mythology :)
September 25, 2013 12:01 a.m.
TheDarklight says... #10
It will be interesting to see what they come up with their actual card design. I am thinking they will be the reverse of the major gods. Like they enter as a creature then with enough devotion they become stronger and give an enchantment effect. Not that I don't like the way they are now but something different would be nice. Especially since they are 2 colour gods.
September 25, 2013 12:13 a.m.
harrydemon117 says... #11
instead of enchantment gods that have an AURA that be sensed by mortals, how about the "lesser gods" are creature artifacts that can be equipped for bigger bonuses/effects once their devotion to their color is upheld? Kind of like having to prove oneself before being granted a gift of power.
I can picture the flavor on some of these: "___ took the form of a bracer to help strengthen his arm in his time of crisis"
September 25, 2013 8:05 a.m.
TheDarklight says... #12
As much as I like that idea, I can't see it happening in a enchantment themed block. If they do it would be a bit weird. However i hope they do continue the enchantment artifacts. I love those even more then the gods!
September 26, 2013 1:15 a.m.
harrydemon117 says... #13
@TheDarklight: I agree! I'm still thinking of how to best abuse them with Trading Post haha
September 26, 2013 9:11 a.m.
I believe that Karametra is actually the god of the harvest. I'm taking that from Karametra's Acolyte 's flavour text, karametra being the one who "gardens the world," also I think I read somewhere that nylea hates karametra because she sees farming/gardening as an abomination.
November 6, 2013 11:49 a.m.
Ah! I found it! Here it is It says there that Karametra is the god of agriculture/seasons etc.
November 6, 2013 12:05 p.m.
Horizon Chimera and Agent of Horizons are both in GU, and the Prophet of Kruphix untaps you, so I think Kruphix is probably going to have something to do with time/growth, God Of Horizons doesn't seem like a bad bet. Seems in flavour for U/G
November 6, 2013 7:56 p.m.
Look at the Temples, too. Temple of Mystery , Temple of Abandon , Temple of Deceit , Temple of Silence , Temple of Triumph . They're probably at least somewhat influenced by the gods of those colors.
November 9, 2013 9:58 a.m.
BlastercoolWeird says... #18
My bet is that Xenagos is gonna show up as the R/G god, most likely in Journey into Nyx.
it's aggressively obvious from the lore and the teased promotional arts for Born of the Gods and Journey into Nyx that Xenagos' goal is to become a god. Chances are he's probably going to have to give up his planeswalker spark to do so (because there's NO way Wizard will make THIRD R/G planeswalker in a year)
Xenagos losing his spark works lore-wise because he would be happy to give it up and live in blissful ignorance of the multiverse.
Also, just saying, Elspeth and Ajani are probably gonna kick his ass. I don't think Elspeth can take failing to save a plane for a third time, fourth if you count her unnamed homeworld.
November 9, 2013 11:26 a.m.
TheDarklight says... #19
I have a feeling that the minor gods in born of the gods will corresponded to the dual lands in theros (Temple of Mystery , Temple of Abandon , Temple of Deceit , Temple of Silence , Temple of Triumph ). and then they may release 2 other duals in born and the last 3 in nyx with the over five minors they haven't used.
Also it would not surprise me if Xenagos gets a card in each set (as the promo art from born shows him as apart of a mountain while nyx shows him as a more demonic entity.
November 11, 2013 12:38 a.m.
Nah, the next temples will all be released in Born of the Gods, since 5-2-3 would look really weird. No idea why they didn't follow COG format and be 4-3-3. Or why the RTR colored ones didn't come before the GTC colored ones.
November 12, 2013 6:53 p.m.
They felt that since the RTR shocks came first, the GTC colors should get first pick at scrys.
My prediction is that the RTR color Gods and scrylands will be in Born of the Gods, and the remaining Gods will be in Journey into Nyx.
November 12, 2013 6:56 p.m.
wizards will never do this, and i'm thankful, but it would be really funny to see phyrexia come back just to screw elspeth over.
November 12, 2013 7:19 p.m.
Well, we do have a black-green (mostly black) god named Pharika, couldn't POSSIBLY be a reference to the recent black-green (mostly black) Phyrexians, could it?
November 13, 2013 4:25 p.m.
TheDarklight says... #25
they might do 5/2/3 like they did in innistrad was what i was pointing out there.
also its a given that they will have 5 minor gods in the next 2 sets. (I do remember reading that somewhere but can't remember where, MaRo blog if i had to take a guess)
November 13, 2013 11:44 p.m.
vonbittner says... #26
It also seems that Mogis (B/R) and Phaenax (B/U) are somewhat on opposite sides as the returned seem to be BU and we have the Underworld Cerberus closing the doors to the underworld.
November 25, 2013 10:55 a.m.
golffore297 says... #27
G/R God will either have something to do with Xenagos or Karametra. I feel like even though Xenagos has his Godly ascension, I don't think they will make another card for him.
November 25, 2013 11:15 a.m.
MaliciousMac says... #28
I wonder how broken the UW God will be...
Or rather, any of them. BR will be fun.
November 25, 2013 9:36 p.m.
wallshadow117 says... #29
I'm excited to see more from Mogis. I am working on a minotaur deck and I would like to see if I could splash Mogis into that.
November 25, 2013 11:10 p.m.
golffore297 says... #30
Also, how will devotion for the fusion gods work? Thoughts?
November 26, 2013 7:25 a.m.
vonbittner says... #31
It could go "equal to the number of permanents with B and R on their casting cost", which would limit way too much or "B OR R" what would be way too broken.
November 26, 2013 7:56 a.m.
MaliciousMac says... #32
I think "B or R" would be fine, and these gods may be a lot less strong than the other ones. Like, maybe no indestructible or something. Who knows.
November 26, 2013 8:31 a.m.
@GinjaNinja, you are right. Lots of gods overlap and Ares and Athena both have different rolls in war. Athena is more associated with battle strategy, Think Odric, Master Tactician . Ares is more about guts and glory, think Rakdos, Lord of Riots the more damage done the bigger benefit you have. I think it's very fitting to have gods on either side of war.
November 26, 2013 10:12 a.m.
BlastercoolWeird says... #34
I have a suspicion that the minor gods will be mono-colored but will require an off-color devotion in he color they also associate with. I don't know, it seems a little weird for wizards to stress this set will be more monocolor-focused and then have 5 multicolor gods eating up the mythic slots of both of the upcoming small sets.
November 27, 2013 3:57 p.m.
golffore297 says... #35
I thought they already announced that all the minor gods were going to be dual-colored.
November 27, 2013 4:01 p.m.
BlastercoolWeird says... #36
was that confirmed? hm.
I wouldn't know, I don't really follow the rumor mill and the media outlets until official spoiler season
November 27, 2013 9:02 p.m.
I'm really excited for a rakdos god. Can't wait to see what him
"During training, every Stratian is warned about the threat of Mogis, because it is during battle when the god can slip into the hearts of warriors, making them crave ever more blood and pain. All Akroans know how Mogis can take a small flame of revenge and grow it into an inferno of madness. Those who are overcome by such desires flee the polis to find enclaves of those who worship Mogis. Not all who worship the twisted god are cannibals, but all crave rage and bloodlustand some do crave human flesh as the minotaurs do."
This sounds awesome
December 3, 2013 6:01 p.m.
Oh man...that sounds like Rakdos himself. He is gonna do some crazy take "take control of target creature....until end of turn" type stuff
December 3, 2013 6:05 p.m.
golffore297 says... #39
It certainly sounds like there could certainly be some type of betrayal ability.
December 3, 2013 6:12 p.m.
Arachnarchist says... #40
TheDarklight: The difference between the Innistrad 10 land cycle and the Scrylands is that the Scrylands produce Mana of both colors. So restricting 2 or 3 color producing lands would have a much greater effect on Standard, since duals are almost always played in their respective colors.
December 4, 2013 6:50 p.m.
Demigod text could be the following: "Unless your devotion to C or C is at least 5, ??? is not a creature."
December 6, 2013 7:26 a.m.
I thought it would be along the lines of "Unless devotion to X and Y is at least 3, MissingNo. is not a creature." So if you had the G/W god in play as well as 2x Loxodon Smiter , you'd have her online.
December 6, 2013 5:16 p.m.
ShadowLand says... #43
Hmm, that sounds reasonable, though it would force a lot of people into playing dual or tri-colored decks again OpenFire, and there are already confirmed 3 spoiled scrylands for BNG, so at the very least we can expect 5-3-2 out of the release, sad that the G/B wasn't spoiled tho
December 7, 2013 2:41 a.m.
Huh, I didn't know about those. Which colors were spoiled?
December 7, 2013 9:55 a.m.
infinitemana says... #45
harrydemon117: Imagine the typline on those things... Legendary Enchantment Artifact Creature-God Equipment
December 7, 2013 8:26 p.m.
Well, the current god weapons were going to be Legendary Enchantment Artifact Equipment, but they couldn't fit it on the bar where the types usually go. They had to cut one type, so Hammer of Purphoros was no longer an Equipment.
December 7, 2013 9:02 p.m.
2knighttokens says... #47
Kruphix is the god of the Horizon and the dawn. Not the god of dance. If anything, when (spoilers) Xenagos becomes god of revelry, his domains will include dance.
December 8, 2013 9:52 a.m.
dannylambo says... #48
Iroas, God of VictoryMogis, God of SlaughterEphara, god of the polis
Epochalyptik says... #2
Moved to Lore.
September 24, 2013 3:29 a.m.