why is one banned but the other is not
Legacy forum
Posted on Feb. 9, 2014, 11:25 p.m. by swkelly89
i noticed that Windfall is on the banned list for legacy, but Whispering Madness is not, and is essentially the same card. why is this?
The extra mana and the extra colored symbol make all the difference. It goes from being say a reliable draw 7 in decks with Lion's Eye Diamond
and the like to something that's harder to set-up, slower and not as splash-able. It's much the same situation that a card like Ancestral Recall
is in. It's not the effect itself that's broken, but the cost and efficiency. Though granted Ancestral Recall
is on a whole other level.
February 9, 2014 11:38 p.m.
chicagobearz says... #5
This is why i love to play and keep up with legacy. They will bann cards like Windfall
, Mental Misstep
, Gush
, Black Vise
, the list goes on and only gets more intense with the mox set. There are very few cards that i would like to see off and on this list. I love Gush
and I've thought for years now it should be un-banned, but blue is the power for now and this would only break it further. I am surprised they kept True-Name Nemesis
around, being designed for group commander games, but i cant say i'm not happy about it staying legal. As to the question about thees two specific cards, Windfall
can be cast in almost any deck. Put a dual or two, maybe a freeLotus Petal
and bam, fresh hand. With Whispering Madness
costing both U/B it limits the cards overall usefulness, and makes it more geared towards the mill/discard strategy. I have a casual mono green infect deck i love to put cards with great power that would you would not think of. Thinking "i'll just Lightning Bolt
his Glistener Elf
" and being met with a surprise Mental Misstep
is great.
March 3, 2014 9:47 p.m.
This is like saying why is Lightning Bolt broken but not Searing Spear (or any of those things trying to mimic bolt)
March 4, 2014 5:40 a.m.
I noticed that Ancestral Recall is banned, but not Jace's Ingenuity They do the exact same thing! What's the deal?
March 4, 2014 12:59 p.m.
lookoutimscary says... #9
swkelly89- Excatly!, same concept with your situation.
March 4, 2014 1:23 p.m.
It bugs me that Strip Mine is banned but Wasteland isn't, I know WHY it is this way, but it bugs me, and they wont ban a two drop 9/10 with no drawbacks, but Mystical Tutor is banned.
September 7, 2014 5:12 p.m.
does it bug you black lotus is banned? or ancestral? i mean temporal mastery for miracle is like the same thing as timewalk so unban timewalk.
September 8, 2014 12:24 p.m.
canterlotguardian says... #14
chaosjace "two drop 9/10 with no drawbacks" what the hell kind of card is that?
September 24, 2014 10:32 a.m.
canterlotguardian says... #16
as a matter of fact, the most that 'Goyf can ever be is an 8/9, unless they added a new card supertype since the last time I checked. and I have literally never seen a 'Goyf get that damn big. it usually either gets killed off, or there's not enough card types in the 'yard to get it there.
September 24, 2014 10:56 a.m.
Playing Jund it's consistently a 5/6 or 6/7 by mid game. I've never seen one maxed out but it gets there.
September 24, 2014 10:59 a.m.
canterlotguardian says... #18
it'll get there quicker I bet with the Onslaught fetches now being Modern legal (thanks a lot, Khans... lol)
September 24, 2014 11 a.m.
The zendikar fetches were alreadyLegal. This won't speed up Goyfs process. Lol
DrFunk27 says... #2
Converted Mana cost and Windfall is only take 1 U and Whispering Madness is Black U
February 9, 2014 11:33 p.m.