Yawgmoth's Will/Crucible of Worlds + Manabond Interaction
Asked by Minathia 13 years ago
If I have a Manabond in play and either card:Yawgmoth's Will active for the turn or Crucible of Worlds in play as well, can I dump all my lands currently in my GY into play during my discard phase?
If the above does work, does Manabond also synergize in a similar way with Oracle of Mul Daya ? As in, if the revealed top card is a land, I put it into play during discard phase, and reveal another land, repeate until I don't reveal a land.
Bonus question 1: What is the effect called that allows you to treat cards in one zone as if they are in another?
MagnorCriol says... #2
The better way of explaining why this doesn't work is that Manabond keys off cards in your hand, and while the other effects allow you to pull lands from different zones than you normally can, they don't put them in your hand, nor do they tell you to treat them as if they were in your hand, so Manabond doesn't see them.
There's not really an answer to your bonus question. There's a very few effects that actually allow you to 'treat [X] as if it were [Y],' where X and Y are zones; I can't even think of them off the top of my head, though I know I've seen that text before. It's also a broad question since there's a lot of zones. What were you thinking of? Hoping to get something counted as your hand, I'm guessing?
October 26, 2011 12:04 p.m.
Yea. My ultimate goal is to fill up the GY with lands, then Manabond them in. Just looking for the right card to do it with...
October 26, 2011 12:25 p.m.
I'm fairly sure you can't. Manabond is pretty hard to break, if you know what I mean. Fastbond + Crucible of Worlds + Personal Sanctuary (optional, but recommended) would be about the ideal for that strategy.
October 26, 2011 1:15 p.m.
MagnorCriol says... #5
Hmm. Yeah, like Polaris said, I think a better means would be cards like Fastbond that allow you to play multiple lands per turn. Fastbond doesn't impose the restrictions that Manabond does on where the lands have to be, so with a Crucible of Worlds and a Fastbond out you can dump all the lands from your GY onto the battlefield (it'll ping you a bit for doing so, but that's probably okay. Throw in a Grazing Gladehart and it won't matter at all.)
Other cards like this include Summer Bloom , Azusa, Lost but Seeking , Exploration , Oracle of Mul Daya (with his first ability), and Journey of Discovery (with the second half).
October 26, 2011 1:20 p.m.
mozerdozer says... #6
The original combo is Zuran Orb , Fastbond and Crucible of Worlds for infinite life and mana.
Rites of Spring could be mildly effective in this case.
Polaris says... Accepted answer #1
No, Manabond had nothing to do with "land drops." You aren't playing the lands, you are putting them onto the battlefield with a card effect. The only ways you can combo with Crucible of Worlds are things that give you extra land drops (like Oracle of Mul Daya ), including Rites of Flourishing , Azusa, Lost but Seeking , and Fastbond .
October 26, 2011 11:04 a.m.