Selvala "Twiddlestorm Explorer" cEDH Primer

Commander / EDH Nathan_of_the_Gilt_leaf

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post Throne of Eldraine update —Nov. 14, 2019

-Mandate of Peace
-Path to Exile
-Krosan Grip
+Sylvan Library
+Kenrith's Transformation
+Beast Within

I've decided to try to make this primary decklist less meta specific, and more suited for a general cEDH meta. For that reason, I've decided to cut Mandate of Peace, Path to Exile, and Krosan Grip, and add Kenrith's Transformation and Beast Within. Additionally, I'm going to start posting new set updates a month or so after the set releases, to give me enough time to actually test the new cards (like Kenrith's Transformation, which absolutely over-performed).

goldrhino says... #1

FroggyTroller just wanted to rescind my original thoughts on Cloudstone Curio in the deck. I did put it back in and focused on getting it out for a few games and it was a bomb every time. Not exactly sure how/why the value didn't seem to be there before but in a few games it's been a monster.

Also, just wanted to comment again on Penance . I know it's a bit convoluted, but if you specifically have Selvala, Umbral Mantle , and Penance on the battlefield AND you have mana in the bank or a way to make sure you're at least netting 3 with each Selvala tap, you will never pass priority to your opponents and you will make them draw themselves to death. Selvala's ability is a mana ability and can not be responded to by opponents by rule. Umbral Mantle's untap is part of the cost of the ability, as is Penance's activation cost of putting a hand on top of your library.

Tap Selvala for mana and cards, hold priority. Activate Mantle to untap Selvala, hold priority. Activate Penance to put a card back on top, hold priority, repeat until everyone has drawn their library. If you are certain you have more cards than everyone else and you're not depending on not flipping a land off your own deck, you don't need Penance anymore.

Good to see other Selvala players out there still keeping up with the deck.

What do you guys think of Faeburrow Elder from the new set? Thinking about giving it a tryout.

October 1, 2019 10:04 a.m.

goldrhino
Good to know that you have found success with Cloudstone Curio ; I don't actually own one in paper, so I've never actually played it in a real game.

I understand how the Selvala + Umbral Mantle interaction works, and how Penance can be incorporated into it- that isn't my problem with the card. The problem is that Selvala + Umbral Mantle is almost always game-winning anyway, so Penance is a dead card in pretty much all scenarios. In addition, the only tutor for it is Enlightened Tutor , which already has targets that make Selvala + Umbral Mantle more consistent ( Smothering Tithe or Leyline of Abundance ), except those other options are relevant in other contexts.

Switching gears, I don't think Faeburrow Elder is playable in this deck. It's just a worse Bloom Tender , which I am also not running for the same reason I'm not running any of the typical 2 mana ramp spells- it doesn't ramp into Selvala, and once I have Selvala, the extra mana it does provide isn't relevant.

October 1, 2019 3:34 p.m.