I mean not really. Tier 1-2 should represent competitively viable decks and its not currently doing that.

I am going to go through a few commander's real quick that have been brought up.

Dralnu/Circu: I personally still think that Dralnu list is Tier 2, but if that is not accepted yet, 2.5 works. Circu is also running a similar deck with a different upside in hozing the other storm players with the third ability, and adding another wincon and should be moved up similarly.

Prossh: He is no longer the best food chain deck, as Tazri is. He is still very strong, but tier 1.5 still may not be justified.

Yidris: Having to connect with combat damage is a downside. While the storm does not rely on it, he is still sitting in tier 1 or 1.5 once consensus is heard. Increase of an archtype is not the best excuse for placements, every deck has bad matchups.

Brago: The commander breaks Stasis, there are very few cards that can do that and that is arguably the hardest stax card in magic. No Change.

GAAIV: Probably still on par with Tasigur Control. No Change.

Animar: It has been discussed here quite a few times that he is not what he once was, but is still a very consistent combo deck, no change.

Karador: He continues to only get better with Protean Hulk and Razaketh, no reason to change despite Thraisos+Tymna/Ravos probably doing it better, but that is why they're higher.

Teneb: He is Karador-lite and I now support moving him up to tier 2.5 like somnus suggested before his absence, hulk got him back.

Razaketh: He needs no change, as gigi summed up.

Scion: There is no reason to move that deck down with the amount of combos and consistency of each it achieves.

Jeleva vs Kess: I am staying out of this discussion.

Savra: Why is Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker not the Shadowborn apostle deck with his synergy? Vela the Night-Clad also seems quite good with that strategy.

Atraxa: The deck listed is not the stax version of her with parallax wave and parallax tide, but the boonweaver combo which she does nothing for other than colors for draw and counters. I am confused in why the build doesn't utilize her, and why she is placed here with boonweaver, likely needs lowered until a different build is figured out.

Alesha vs Edgar: Edgar needs proven, both do helm stax decks of the same color that will directly compete.

Azami: Probably needs revisited due to the wizards deck and if changed evaluated to be moved back to tier 1.5.

Keranos: Needs moved up to tier 2.5 with the deck I listed above as a stax deck.

I think that raps up most topics, probably missed something.

I have around 5 neglected generals in mind for decks like Reaper Kings that should bump them up.

I am also still working on a lower tier cleanup list that is a hidden deck on here, I will release it when done. There are 470ish generals down there so it is taking much longer than anticipated and I have also neglected it for a few brews lately, will get back to it.

We still need to get decks for all tier 3 commanders, so continue to submit decks for somnus tier 3 project.

Remember to not take any of the debates personally (specifically Jeleva vs Kess), as some people seem to be doing just that.

As a total aside question, was a Tier ranking potential for 1996 world champion as a commander ever established? He was obviously better before the tuck-rule change ironically haha

merrowMania when you said lets keep them both in tier 1, i also advocated for that lol, so thank you for saying it louder and bigger!

Also, if no one is opposed, id be more than happy to make a kruphix, god of horizons edh deck. Itll be similar to omnath locus of rage more than likely with the amount of mana generation, but with access to blue ill have counters, cyclonic rift, and much better draw power than red

viperfang4, Savra is the Shadowborn deck because a lot of the cards that make it work are in green, and Vela is much better as a Palinchron combo commander. (Didn't I make a deck for that?)

Athraithe, Go for it.

Don't let your dreams be dreams... Or empty from your mana pool.

sonnet666, Thanks man. feel free to talk to me on my wall or on my deck page.

I actually started with your list and brought it to a facebook group that the lab maniac guys run. That group was telling me that I should cut the HD combo (and maybe even a backup plan altogether). Run more Stax, do the flash hulk combo for a win etc. Since then I have been play testing it and trying to streamline the thing. I would be more then happy to find a way to play against your deck so you can see it in action if you are feeling up for it. although to be perfectly honest it looks like you are getting swamped with things to do just on this page alone. So no Hard feelings if you don't get around to it, but if you won't consider my deck for a link here then maybe think about a bump in tier? having access to hulk flash seemed to put this deck on the next level. for that matter the challenge to play my deck is open to all, I need to playtest the thing and I want to show you guys that Claw of progress is the real deal (at least for a commander that has been sitting on teir 3 for a very long time). lol

So feel free to hit me up for games!

Building a non-casual kruphix deck is much harder than i thought it would be. Im too used to casual play with him (main commander for a year and a half in casual play). if anyone would like to help my build it, ill be linking it shortly after slapping in some staples that are needed heavily. Trying to make arbitrary amounts of mana and finding an outlet besides lab man, eldrazi, or helix pinnacle is proving to be more complicated than before. Link going up in about 10 minutes, id love some feedback from everyone!

Dralnu's downside rarely comes into play in comp games, and there are certainly more vulnerable comp commanders. Simply removing Selvala can turn the entire deck off, for example, but she's still a good deck.

List so far Kruphix, god of manaz

Would love to see a Memnarch deck, anyone have one? I am currently working on one but I don't really know how I to make it better.

I can't find Marath, will of the wild. Am I missing something?

Ctrl+F, Tier 2, decklist is in the description.

sonnet666 the updates to the list are looking good with some commanders moved and tier 3 split into 2 tabs. Be sure to add an update tab with the full description when you're done to explain everything that happened, the last one was January and we have not been documenting that well since despite a lot happening.

I feel as though Titania should be bumped up to tier 2.5. She seems relatively stronger than most of the tier 3 generals. She has a ton of combo potential. By no means is she tier 1.5 or 2, but 3 is a bit low.

palmerb2 i have a barebones list but it has some sub optimal silver bullets and combos (as was discussed here), you can use it as a starting point. posting it here in case anyone wants to make a decent list, or put this bad one up Ferngully, Titania combo

Hey Guys, I know that right now the tiers are in a bit of a change and looking through some of the lists I realized that the Momir Vig, Simic Visionary list cannot possibly be the best (e.g. no crypt etc.), which is why I thought up this list over the past few days and I would like to ask if it could replace the current one: Simic Hulk. Please mind that this is a theoretical list which I did not playtest expect for some goldfishing. If this list does not make the cut at least use this one Momir Vig, Simic Combonary since it is clearly more tuned than the current one.

Bowngnawer, I like it.

I will second that movement.

I would like to nominate Sliver Overlord for tier 1 or 1.5. He can run Food Chain like Tazri. Here is my build: Slivers...The Top of the Food Chain. It is Shaper's Food Chain Tazri list with 5 cards changed and runs near identically. It is slightly worse since tazri has 3 great targets for wincons in Hagra Diabolist, Kalastria Healer, and Halimar Excavator. Overlord has 2 in Acidic Sliver and Cautery Sliver, but Laboratory Maniac (which is already in the deck as it's own wincon with library exile) gives Food Chain 2 more wincons for Overlord in Dormant Sliver and Mnemonic Sliver. I am kind of surprised no one realized Overlord could do this near identically to Tazri until I did over the weekend, but it is now known to all. While the Queen's Egg primer for the sliverball deck is fantastic, this list is way better and needs to go in over it. Happy Brewing.

Wait a minute am i missing something? how is tymna above commanders like Animar soul of elements, Arcum dagsson or gitrog monster?

viperfang4: Wouldn't you also need to run Basal Sliver to make the combo work? Otherwise you get infinite creature mana yes, but you can't use it to activate abilities. So once you have infinite creature mana, your first tutor will have to be Basal Sliver (which you need for) and then you can chain into those combos. Outside of this, only Dormant Sliver + Laboratory Maniac works.

long chain of recommended decks/looking for tuning advice:

Nazahn- dont be elvish

Grimgrin, Corpse-Born- ZomZon (still testing if rooftop storm is a great enough combo enabler)

Inalla, Archmage Ritualist- wizard life

Mairsil, the Pretender- my commander is grim monolith (about to work on a second version to see if the full necrotic ooze package is better)

Neheb the eternal-Eternal Smackdown (storm does not work in mono red. you just dont have the card advantage/draw/wheels you need efficiently)

Well then, yeah i would need Basal Sliver or haste slivers with mana slivers. I have not read food chain in a couple months and forgot it was only creatures and the people i was having check it over also missed it. I still think Food Chain is probably the best way to go with Sliver Overlord, it just takes more cards to get going. Thanks enpc, I will fix that build.

TronIsloveTronislife pretty much, her and tana head a 4c deck called blood pod, which is just a very efficient drop u shell. tymna gives good card draw if you need it, and tanas dudes can be used to help fuel the draw, or to start birthing pod chains. They just fill out the deck better than saskia\ravos tan