Venomthrope

Creature — Tyranid

Flying, deathtouch, hexproof

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (2)

Blackheart426 on

1 year ago

There's some great stuff here! What do you think about Slip Out the Back and Withstand Death for a little boardwipe protection? Orvar, the All-Form might be fun, letting you drum up a few extra bodies, too. Venomthrope and Eutropia the Twice-Favored also might be fun in a deck like this!

legendofa on What is Gruul to you?

1 year ago

I think I'm not explaining myself well.

My central thought is that {R} + {G} does not equal {R}{G}. Red might not get deathtouch, but green has full access to it. Why should a red/green card not get deathtouch simply because red doesn't get deathtouch?

White doesn't get deathtouch either, but Arvad the Cursed, Spiteful Squad, Wintermoor Commander, and others have deathtouch. This can only be provided by the {B} requirement.

{U} doesn't get first strike. Sky Spirit, Leap of Flame, Deft Duelist, and others all have first strike provided by their other colors.

Ergo, a color can provide one of its abilities to a card, even if another color can't.

{R} can provide first strike to a card, even a {G} card, with Neheb, the Worthy, Stromkirk Captain, and Halana and Alena, Partners.

{G} can provide deathtouch to a card, as shown by Needlethorn Drake, Winged Coatl, and Venomthrope.

So why is {G} unable to provide deathtouch to {R} (and {W}) cards? Is {U} somehow better at removal than these colors?

I promise I'm not asking these questions rhetorically, or in anger. I genuinely don't fully understand. And as I was writing this response, I realize my position hearkens back to GDS3 and the infamous {B}{G} flying vigilance question. To which I respond that since that question was asked, Warrant / Warden was printed, and still no {B}{G} vigilant flyer.

And I think I've derailed this enough. If anyone wants to help me out, start another thread and I'll respond. With my apologies, let's get this back to the many faces of Gruul in Commander.