Cards That People Underestimate

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Posted on May 15, 2018, 7:42 p.m. by Color_pie14

Hi, so I need some budget cards that I can use against my friends who are TERRIBLE at threat assessment. Not all of them are terrible though, so I also need them to be underrated. Finally, I need them to be red, have some kind of chaos theme, and not to be enchantments/artifacts (as one of my playgroup friends has incredible removal for those AND a grudge against me). It will be for

Drink! (Norin)

Commander / EDH* Color_pie14


DrukenReaps says... #3

That is a pretty tall order but ummm Goblin Game is fun chaos, that should work.

May 16, 2018 3:23 a.m.

BabyK says... #4

Warp World and Whims of the Fates are two favorites of mine

May 16, 2018 4:07 a.m.

BS-T says... #5

Thieves' Auction is also fun.

As far as being underrated goes, you could always tune down other parts of your deck with a sub-optimal thing here or there so you look a little more innocuous until you can chuck out some massive chaos-y randomness!

May 16, 2018 8:59 a.m.

Chasmolinker says... #6

I would say Mana Clash, Game of Chaos, and Fiery Gambit are good Chaos cards. I know you say no artifacts but these become very powerful with Krark's Thumb.

May 16, 2018 9:05 a.m.

Color_pie14 says... #7

Thanks to all of you! I am currently looking at the cards you suggested, but I dont quite get how Goblin Game works. I had thought of Krark's Thumb but needed a rules clarification: if you have Krark's Thumb and Chance Encounter out, and you get two won coin flips off of Krark's Thumb, will you get one or two luck counters? My guess is one, but hey, who knows? Im also thinking about Mana Clash, and am deciding if I should put it in my deck. Again, thanks!

May 17, 2018 9:13 a.m.

Chasmolinker says... #8

I would say no because of the "Ignore One" part on Krark's Thumb. Only one coin flip is actually "seen" by Chance Encounter

May 17, 2018 9:28 a.m.

Chasmolinker says... #9

Goblin Game is basically everyone "hides" a number of "objects" (Dice, Counters, cards) from outside the game and then whoever hid the least amount of stuff loses half of their life.

May 17, 2018 9:31 a.m.

WhichKing says... #10

Grip of Chaos is an enchantment but can be quite er... tricky to remove :P

May 17, 2018 10:10 a.m.

DrukenReaps says... #11

goblin game example:

Player A hides 3 dice

Player B hides 1 Marble

Player C hides a stuffed animal

You hide 5 cards

Everyone reveals their hidden objects, the fun part is trying to hide the objects in a way that no one quite knows how many you hide.

each will lose life equal to the number of objects revealed.

A loses 3

B loses 1

C loses 1

you lose 5

then player C and B lose half their life because they hid the fewest things.

May 17, 2018 12:20 p.m.

Chasmolinker says... #12

DrukenReaps I missed the "Each player loses life equal to the number of objects he or she revealed" part. Thanks.

May 17, 2018 3:04 p.m.

Calliber says... #13

Might I suggest Burning Inquiry, Arc Blade, Reforge the Soul (if you like wheeling).

May 20, 2018 7:15 p.m.

metalnowak says... #14

Regarding Goblin Games DrunkenReaps explained it well. I play this stupid card in my mono red chaos deck. Goblin Games often just confuses people which could be beneficial. Rather than literally hiding items a good way to do it is everyone writes down a number on a piece of paper and reveals it at once, or we place a spin down die and reveal it that way

May 29, 2018 4:39 p.m.

hfvalenz says... #15

Have you considered Puppet's Verdict?

May 30, 2018 10:43 p.m.

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