Nissa's Renewal or Nissa's Revelation, another Ulamog??

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Posted on Dec. 3, 2015, 12:28 p.m. by e10mays

Building a gruul ramp with the main features being 3 of each of the following Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger, Dragonlord Atarka, and omnath, the locus of rage. Not sure if Nissa's Revelation would be worth running over Nissa's Renewal. The card draw could be a saving grace, possibly, especially if I run into some removal. Advice? I'm avoiding Animist's Awakening and using Explosive Vegetation and Nissa's Pilgrimage, as well as Rattleclaw Mystic and 3 Shaman of Forgotten Ways for a quick ramp. Should I add another Ulamog?

zandl says... #2

I've been jamming G/R and Mono-G Eldrazi ramp for several weeks now and Nissa's Renewal oftentimes saves my bacon when I draw it. Gaining 7 life out of nowhere is usually enough to offset an entire turn's worth of damage, so it typically becomes a Time Walk + 3 lands.

Deck-thinning is also a very relevant thing in ramp decks right now, too, since you're taking cards out of your deck almost every turn. Considering this, you don't really need much card-draw at all as your normal draws per turn become more potent as the game progresses.

December 3, 2015 2:26 p.m.

torridus says... #3

Nissa's Revelation gives you life and card draw, but there's a small chance you get nothing for 7 mana. Nissa's Renewal gives you 7 life and 3 lands for 6 mana.

Personally, I prefer Renewal because it's more consistent and can be cast 1 turn earlier than Revelation (which is very significant). It depends on the deck and its pilot's goals. I tend to only have a few fat creatures in my ramp decks, which means Revelation has more chances to whiff. And a Nissa's Revelation for zero may lose you the game.

If you need to refill your hand you can splash blue for Treasure Cruise or something else. If you need life gain, Jaddi Offshoot and Nissa's Renewal are pretty reliable choices.

December 3, 2015 5:36 p.m.

zandl says... #4

Sanctum of Ugin eliminates a lot of the need for card-draw as you can start chaining Ulamogs and other giant threats.

December 3, 2015 5:51 p.m.

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