April 2016: Shadows over Innistrad
Spoilers, Rumors, and Speculation forum
Posted on Oct. 31, 2015, 6:42 p.m. by JWiley129
Announced during GP Indy, the Spring 2016 set is Shadows over Innistrad!
Edits for FAQ:
- Here is Mark Rosewater on why we're getting two returns in a row.
Hamster2558 says... #2
What color do you guys think the new sorin will be 
or just 
March 17, 2016 9:17 a.m.
AgentGreen says... #5
Well if you think about it; if you need to sac a land to cast a spell or trigger an ability (World Breaker), now you can do so and have it back shortly thereafter
March 17, 2016 9:25 a.m.
Stormcaller says... #7
http://mythicspoiler.com/soi/cards/drownyardtemple.jpg
Nice land for delirium decks
March 17, 2016 9:29 a.m.
Hamster2558 says... #8
Oh cool...can't wait to see the new Sorin. Was kinda dissapointed at the new Jace.
March 17, 2016 9:31 a.m.
3x Amulet of Vigor + 'Drownyard Temple' + Any Land sac outlet for some ability...
Could also use Lotus Cobra in place of Amulet. - And the sac outlet could be anything if you also have other 'Landfall' ability for good/winning effect.
March 17, 2016 9:47 a.m.
Could also work... 4CMC is little expensive for the ability, but it would work if you needed more options.
March 17, 2016 10:02 a.m.
Scorched Ruins + Drownyard Temple + any other land is a pretty interesting interaction.
Lets you get back Drownyard Temple while still having 1 mana left over. Bonus points for having a Crucible of Worlds to play the other sacrified land the next turn.
March 17, 2016 10:26 a.m.
mymanpotsandpans says... #17

That is one of the coolest +1 out there.
March 17, 2016 10:35 a.m. Edited.
So we have another six mana control walker.
Hello esper control.
Hello esper dragons...
Oh god...
Standard just got bad again...
March 17, 2016 10:38 a.m.
VampireArmy says... #20
You know it's good when your plus 1 wins games on its own.
March 17, 2016 10:39 a.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #22
I will be brewing Esper Superfriends for sure. Detective Jace, Flip Jace, Ob-Mix, Ally Gideon, Sorin?
Curving Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip -> Oath of Gideon -> Gideon, Ally of Zendikar -> Detective Jace/Ob Nixilis Reignited -> Nemesis Sorin? Be still my beating heart!
March 17, 2016 10:43 a.m.
I like how they show the rare mana dork next to the new Sorin so we don't notice it as much...
Really, why is this a rare? I mean, a 2-drop golgari mana dork is ok, and giving it deathtouch is also ok, but at rare? What?
March 17, 2016 10:43 a.m.
"Oh man.... he doesn't protect himself well!"
'looks at starting loyalty and the +1 ability'
"WHO CARES!"
March 17, 2016 10:43 a.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #26
Crayfish: it's a 2-drop dork that gives multiple colors and is relevant lategame to attack/block with delirium enabled. Seems solid.
March 17, 2016 10:45 a.m.
Crayfish: Any mana dork that can both mana fix and attack decently, as WELL as act as a 1 for 1 with something big in the mid/late game, deserves to be rare.
March 17, 2016 10:45 a.m.
Kinda having trouble looking at Sorin's armor and not thinking Iron Man.
March 17, 2016 10:47 a.m.
Yeah... he would be too powerful in limited if he were uncommon.
March 17, 2016 10:48 a.m.
AgentGreen says... #30
Shit Sorin is scary AF.
The 6 CMC is high, but required for a PW of this status

control is looking very solid
March 17, 2016 10:48 a.m.
AgentGreen says... #31
Iron Man? I was thinking he killed a mandalorian and stole his armor sans helmet
March 17, 2016 10:50 a.m.
EverythingIsK says... #32
SWEET BABY JACE THIS SORIN IS EVERYTHING AND MORE THAN I WANTED.
I'm playing this as my mardu finisher. This is just badass.
I'll buy 10.
March 17, 2016 10:50 a.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #33
Come on SCG, step it up! I wanna see how much Sorin's gonna be preordered at!
March 17, 2016 10:53 a.m.
ducttapedeckbox says... #34
That +1....... I reveal my Ulamog, you lose half your life.
superfriends looks like fun. Or Esper control. Or they're one in the same.
Curving Narset/Gideon into Jace/Ob into Sorin is disgusting.
March 17, 2016 11:11 a.m.
AgentGreen says... #35
Here's a curious question
Why is Sorin considered a "Grim Nemesis"?
March 17, 2016 11:11 a.m.
VampireArmy says... #37
Grim: his entire family was slaughtered
Nemisis: he gone kill the bitch dat done it.
March 17, 2016 11:13 a.m.
secondwhiteline says... #40
Sorin's 17.99 at Cool Stuff Inc. I'm guessing SCG will start him at 19.99.
March 17, 2016 11:15 a.m.
secondwhiteline says... #42
Vessel of Votality: I wonder if there's gonna be other sac-Enchantments to enable Delirium.
March 17, 2016 11:19 a.m.
averagenovice74 says... #43
This set is absolutely insane with power, I can't even believe it, I haven't been this hype for a set since timespiral block. I already pre-order 3 boxes and I STILL don't think that is enough.
Oh.
Man.
March 17, 2016 11:19 a.m.
AgentGreen says... #44
So let's me make sure I got this right
Nahiri is mighty pissed at Sorin for not helping Zendikar; and wants to make him suffer greatly.
Sorin is mighty pissed at Nahiri for killing his entire family and likely forcing him to whack Avacyn to protect the plane.
This is going to get ugly
March 17, 2016 11:20 a.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #45
Now the question is, do I preorder Sorin at $20? I'll buy a box for sure, but that's no guarantee of pulling him. I probably won't build Superfriends on paper, but I can immediately find him a slot in my EDH deck.
March 17, 2016 11:20 a.m. Edited.
secondwhiteline says... #46
I'm struggling with that. I'd preorder him at Cool Stuff, because I have a loyalty discount and it's still $2 cheaper even without. I'm building a BW control deck for Standard and he's a great addition. I guess only the price is getting in my way.
March 17, 2016 11:23 a.m.
secondwhiteline says... #47
Also, I'm trying to figure out if Olivia and Anguished Unmaking will drop in price after release. Any thoughts, guys?
March 17, 2016 11:24 a.m.
GoldGhost012 says... #48
Anguished Unmaking absolutely. Foils might be in demand for EDH, but it's no Abrupt Decay or Hero's Downfall. Olivia is harder to know because if Standard vampires become a thing, she'll be very big there.
March 17, 2016 11:25 a.m. Edited.
AgentGreen, that sums it up nicely, though we don't know what happened in the thousand or so years between when Nahiri resealed the Eldrazi and the current day.
March 17, 2016 11:26 a.m.
secondwhiteline says... #50
Yeah, that's what I thought about Unmaking - I could see it being in the $3-4 range during its Standard run. Useful and played often, but the $7 they're charging now seems excessive. I might go for Olivia at $13 at Cool Stuff because I really do want to build Fright Night and also make that deck name stick.

: Draw 2 cards."
This is rather interesting...
ChiefBell says... #1
Not to mention the Protean Hulk and Footsteps of the Goryo combo.
March 17, 2016 9:16 a.m.