black Tarmogoyf
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Posted on Sept. 5, 2013, 5:42 p.m. by lord_of_the_snakes
they are making a black Tarmogoyf , nighthowler, 1BB
Bestow 2BB
Nighthowler and enchanted creature each get +X/+X, where X is the number of creature cards in all graveyards.
will this guy be as busted as Tarmogoyf , or will he just be a total flop?
That's not really Tarmogoyf at all. Doesn't work with sorcery, enchantment, artifact, or instant.
We already have Wight of Precinct Six in Standard, and I haven't heard of him seeing much play.
September 5, 2013 5:46 p.m.
I made the same mistake. I thought his ability said +x/+x for all cards in all graveyards. But then I realized that card would never get printed. In short, nighthowler is only Okay
September 5, 2013 5:52 p.m.
lord_of_the_snakes says... #7
so he is Boneyard Wurm /Splinterfright as an enchantment, hmm, i can see ways to break this
September 5, 2013 5:57 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #8
Lord of Extinction is a card. Nighthowler will probably find a home in Jarad EDH decks.
September 5, 2013 6:02 p.m.
It's basically a Wight of Precinct Six with bestow...nowhere near Tarmogoyf .
What makes Tarmogoyf so good is that it's EACH card TYPE in all graveyards. That means if you play a Polluted Delta turn one, crack it for an Island , cast Brainstorm , then play a Forest on turn two, Tarmogoyf is now a 2/3. Nighthowler requires three creatures to basically die or be discarded in order to do something better than what Tarmogoyf does on turn two.
September 5, 2013 7:11 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #11
No offense, but it's posts like this that make me think people don't really know why Tarmogoyf is powerful.
First, Tarmogoyf is a 2-drop with color saturation 1. It comes out very early and very easily.
Second, Tarmogoyf counts card types in all graveyards. In the first few turns, you can expect there to be lands, instants, sorceries, and creatures in yards, if not more. Tarmogoyf often enters the battlefield as a 2/3 or larger, depending on the decks.
Nighthowler is a 1BB card with bestow 2BB, meaning it's much slower than Tarmogoyf . Even though it counts cards from all graveyards, it only counts creature cards. It's highly unlikely that the ability will give Nighthowler more than +1/+1 or +2/+2 for a long time (although it depends on matchups).
Tarmogoyf gets bigger naturally as the game progresses, and it starts off very sizable on turn two. Nighthowler doesn't bring that kind of tempo and power to the battlefield.
September 5, 2013 10:48 p.m.
davidrandom says... #13
I take it back, this guy is just as good as 'Goyf.
If I were you I would buy out every pre-sale you can find. This card is guaranteed to hit $150 in the next year.
miracleHat says... #2
it looks the same as Lhurgoyf which didn't do to well. Scavenging Ooze also says NO to it, we will see.
September 5, 2013 5:45 p.m.