Any Idea on Helvault?
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Posted on Jan. 18, 2012, 1:21 p.m. by Miasma
I'm looking at the spoiler for Helvault, but i just can't find a way to use it. It's beginning to look like pure junk to me, and I really hope it's not the case. So does anyone have an idea on how to use it effectively?
I was really hoping that the Mirari . :(
Late game, when you have a large mana base, it can (slowly) wipe your opponent's board. Maybe combine it with Worldslayer or other "destroy everything" cards and save a bunch of creatures in it?
January 18, 2012 1:35 p.m.
it has a million uses really. hide away your stuff, use it to avoid death of creatures, the Worldslayer thing is cool, get rid of Abyssal Persecutor when you are ready to win, on the second death toss your undying creatures in there to get 4 uses out of each.
This card is not great, but it is playable in casual
January 18, 2012 1:41 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #5
Seems too vulnerable and costly for use in constructed, even in EDH. As squire1 said, probably a casual card.
January 18, 2012 2:01 p.m.
The only use I see with this card off the bat, is the ability to "save" your creatures. If some one slaps out a Doom Blade , Go for the Throat , etc on one of your creatures, or even some board wipe like card:Black Sun's Zenith or Day of Judgment , you can save creatures with Helvault's first ability, then later in the game "pop" it with some artifact destruction.
January 18, 2012 2:36 p.m.
Grand Architect maybe? Similar to Spine of Ish Sah lockdown
January 18, 2012 3:19 p.m.
dimreality6313 says... #8
The right Elf Ramp deck could use it effectively in the mid game to get rid of large threats. Effective, but not efficient =(.
January 18, 2012 4:06 p.m.
IAmKingTony says... #9
The ability to save your own guys from death is pretty nice.
January 18, 2012 4:52 p.m.
IAmKingTony says... #10
Also any deck that wants to try to run Archdemon of Greed might be well served to have it on the board, just in case.
January 18, 2012 4:54 p.m.
albertflasher says... #11
underwhelming, not unlike most of the other mythics in the set...
January 18, 2012 5:17 p.m.
Falkenrath Aristocrat is amazing, and the blue/black mythic is anything but underwhelming
January 18, 2012 7:20 p.m.
MasterFlinter says... #13
Falkenrath Aristocrat doesn't even compare to Hellrider, and it definitely isn't amazing. It's nice but it should be a rare, not a mythic. I guess someone really intent on playing aggro-vampires would use it but there are two better four-drops in red, one of which is in the same set.
As for Helvault, why bother with it? It's lousy for wrath-proofing since it only saves one at a time and for fighting through spot removal it's better to just have more threats in your deck. In EDH it's best use is probably as a colorless source of repeatable yet costly removal. Just make sure that you can bounce it at instant speed to make your opponents creatures go poof for good.
January 18, 2012 9:10 p.m.
Anyone like Memnite , into Infernal Plunge into card:Apostle's Blessing. Anyone with me on this?
Penumbra says... #2
Well you could use it for early game blink like effects if you run some artifact removal and late game repeatable removal. As for combos... Im not really sure yet.
January 18, 2012 1:31 p.m.