Why not run Cavern of Souls?

My primary reason for not running Cavern of Souls is because I don't need the mana fixing. My secondary reason is that it actually hurts my mana for my non-creature spells. My tertiary reason is that it costs too damn much.

Hey could you check out my deck deck:uwr-humanshelp-needed and leave some suggestions. I made this deck but it just feels like something is missing... It would really help me out. thanks.

All of those reasons are actually quite valid, but I would say run 1 or 2 of them just because of control. I might test it out on Cockatrice tomorrow.

I think 2 Cavern of Souls would actually work fine. I may try it out myself and see. I just don't like the idea of having 4 colorless lands with no fixing D:

In your description you mention thinking about putting in Angel of Jubilation which is an interesting combo with Spark Trooper but in my opinion Hellrider is better suited in this deck.

Angel of Jubilation doesn't keep Spark Trooper from being sacrificed. She only stops opponents from paying life or sacrificing creatures for spells or abilities. Even Sigarda, Host of Herons can't keep Spark Trooper from being sacrificed.

Aahh so i read the card wrong but still Hellrider seems better suited

Aahh so i read the card wrong but still Hellrider seems better suited

Angel of Jubilation also applies to the controller, but Spark Trooper isn't being sacrificed as an activated ability.

True that, I never play anything that allows me to pay life or sacrifice creatures, so that was an oversight. That is such a black characteristic, a color I am loathe to play.

just curious would Angel of Jubilation prevent the opponent from sacrificing Vexing Devil

No. The activated ability is not caused by Vexing Devil being sacrificed.

I always run at least 1 Cavern of Souls in anything but heavy control (and even then, if there's room for it in the land-base, I still consider it if my win-cons are creatures).

It's a good card and it's not likely to mess up anything.

Thanks for all the help to everyone and especially Jimhawk! I bought all that I have left to get, and should hopefully be playing with it next week :)

What about Stromkirk Noble ?

Get it Adrian! (Aaron.. :D)

have u tried 2 Blind Obedience in SB? its great vs aggro decks, Thundermaw Hellkite , Aurelia, the Warleader and u can still use the extort ability to kill your opponent. also great vs tokens. every creature your oponent plays comes into play tapped.

Props, I know you've worked on this very hard. Good job. Now if only I could produce a game winning Dimir control deck.

Any chance for the Top 32 Report? Would love too see how the deck ran with certain match-ups!

How do you feel about Ash Zealot , would you consider adding it to the deck?

I like Ash Zealot but the mana is a little tough on the deck already. Trying to play Boros Elite into her into Silverblade Paladin is extremely difficult. I went with less color-intensive options instead.

Congrats!

Oh I see well congrats on your placements, I will give this deck a try probably gonna try a few changes of my own but this deck looks really solid.

I think Oblivion Ring in the sideboard could be useful since your deck lacks removal and you mentioned having difficulty against creatures such as Olivia Voldaren so what would your opinion be? Also could you please explain to me the purpose of Skullcrack in the sideboard? A really nice deck though.