DarkPaladin11 says... #2
I just noticed, but why dont you use Thoughtseize, to me thats an auto include in black.
February 20, 2015 1:08 a.m.
Do you find having only 6 sources of
is enough that you would usually cast End Hostilities on turn 5 or Elspeth, Sun's Champion on turn 6?
February 21, 2015 10:49 a.m.
Congrats on 200 upvotes. This deck has gone a long way from standard death and taxes.
February 26, 2015 9:01 p.m.
Thanks man! It sure has changed a lot. I'm really looking forward to what Dragons of Tarkir can bring to the table! :D
February 26, 2015 9:21 p.m.
Took out End Hostilities in favor of Crux of Fate for more consistency in my lands. Now running a full set of Dismal Backwater, and only 1 of each
temple.
Thoughts on the new build??
March 4, 2015 10:55 a.m.
Spencerbot15 says... #7
You might want to switch back, considering the number of dragons coming out in Dragons of Tarkir. What do you think of Narset Transcendent and Pristine Skywise?
March 4, 2015 3:33 p.m.
Chainer_the_Dementia_Master says... #8
Like the UB based version better. I've been playing around with it, and between my similar build and my sultai build, I don't know what I like better. When Narset Transcendent comes out, I already know I'll be running esper again, but currently can't decide between builds.
March 4, 2015 8:48 p.m.
I'll definitely switch back to End Hostilities after Dragons releases, because dragons and non-dragons makes for hard choices on Crux.
Not just because of dragons though. Narset PW looks great, and the new megamorph-Negate on a beatstick seems fun to try out at the very least.
Either that, or I will scrap control and play Jeskai again, because Dragon Fodder makes tokens so much better.
March 4, 2015 9:39 p.m.
Yeaaahhh but I can only play one deck at FNM!! xD
But that is true. I will end up having both. I hate tearing apart decks.
March 4, 2015 9:45 p.m.
MAGESTIC_LLAMA says... #13
Silumgar, the Drifting Death is a great WinCon and much cheaper then 8 walkers.
March 5, 2015 3:31 p.m.
I will most definitely be adding Narset Transcendent to this deck. The hard part will be acquiring a couple copies :P
But she will be replacing Jace, the Living Guildpact, and I'd like to find room for at least a second. Perhaps a third copy.
I may end up shifting towards a more
/
base, as opposed to
/
.
Silumgar, the Drifting Death is good, but not necessarily better than anything I already have. Though I definitely would like a copy to add to my SB for the control matchup.
March 5, 2015 3:48 p.m.
UpperDeckerTaco says... #15
May I ask why you chose Crux of Fate over End Hostilities? And I feel like Dragons of Tarkir are going to bring significant upgrades to Esper.
March 5, 2015 7:02 p.m.
The change is tempory, simply to add consistency to the lands I can run. I will definitely be switching back to End Hostilities come DTK, and most likely adopt a
/
base as opposed to
/
. I said more on it a few comments ago.
March 5, 2015 8:26 p.m.
UpperDeckerTaco says... #17
I saw that after I had posted it. Makes sense. I abandoned the Esper way momentarily, then once I saw the spoilers, I redid it and threw some of the new cards from the set in there. Would you mind taking a look?
March 5, 2015 8:30 p.m.
Intlfamily says... #19
I have been bouncing between UW and UB and really want Esper to work. I put this list together tonight and play tested against Abzan Aggro and GR Devotion decks. I feel the splash of white is just enough for Elspeth by Turn 6+. Of the 20 games we played, mana was an issue in only 2-3 of them and seemed to run smoothly. The win rate for me was around 60% combined (higher against Abzan). How has this deck been against the hyper aggro decks (mono Red, RW, etc.)?
March 6, 2015 12:06 a.m.
I havn't played many
based aggro decks with this, simply because there is only like 1 player at my LGS who plays a deck like that, and he is playing Jeskai tokens, which is a decent match provided I see Negate and Bile Blight early on. The mainboard Drown in Sorrow helps a lot too, though I actually think I'll go down to one copy of it, instead of 2.
March 6, 2015 12:28 a.m.
Spencerbot15 says... #21
I would suggest putting in Ojutai Exemplars and not Silumgar, the Drifting Death against the mirror. While it doesn't have hexproof, it is much cheaper and all you need is a non-creature spell to keep it safe. Also would be better against aggro. I could be wrong and it might just be a win-more card though.
March 6, 2015 10:26 a.m.
Intlfamily says... #22
I found having two Drown in Sorrow was very useful against the Abzan Aggro deck, so I would imagine it would be good against other aggro decks, even though it is Sorcery speed. At least it takes out more than on creature and not as specific on spot removal as Bile Blight. I like the Negate mainboarded for the burn spells and to often thwart a planeswalker in the midrange decks....Again, nice job. I will run it tonight at an FNM and, depending on how it goes, will run it tomorrow at a TCG Player 5K event. I'll let you know how it goes.
March 6, 2015 11:30 a.m.
EnderSlayer13 says... #23
The description of you deck isn't updated to the new changes in your deck.
March 10, 2015 8:02 a.m.
I am aware of that. I won't edit the description until the full DTK spoiler is released because I'm still expecting there to be some changes made.
Its just laziness, really.
DarkPaladin11 says... #1
Hi there, I've been playing Esper control for quite a while, your deck looks solid. The only thing that scares me is the land. I feel using four of each scry land is needed to keep your starting hands consistent. But i can see how the low cost counter spells along side the main board Drown in Sorrows help in that category. Seems like your main boarding mostly to go against aggro. Which is something my meta game requires me to do also. I would highly recommend siding some Utter Ends though. As the guy mentioned above and i think where he's going with it is you need to be prepared for enchanment/planeswalker type decks. Just my opinion. Also its interesting to see Sorin, Solemn Visitor not being used. But It looks like it works, especially in this build. Also i'm glad you are also aware on how Jace, the Living Guildpact is good. I would appreciate it if you could look at an Esper Midrange deck i'm currently working on. Especially since you obviously have some knowledge in these colors, Thanks. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/esper-mid-range-need-suggestions/
February 20, 2015 1:04 a.m.