Commanders by Power Level [EDH Tier List]

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LabManiac_Sigi says... #1

WAR Update

This is our update for War of the Spark. Please note that these placements are preliminary and will be subject to change over time. Please continue commenting and giving us feedback as you play with these cards so we can re-evaluate their position on the list for future updates.

God-Eternal Oketra - Mid Power

Oketra is good at creating a board full of creatures if she survives a turn cycle, but no combos have been found that are strong enough to push her into High Power.

God-Eternal Kefnet - Competitive

Kefnet is a combo piece and a value engine in one that also comes with a big body to block Tymna. Has a 1.5-card combo with Scroll Rack and extra turn effects.

God-Eternal Bontu - Mid Power

Bontu doesn't create card advantage unless you really build around it - think Gravecrawler, Bitterblossom, etc., no combos have been found that are strong enough to push it into High Power.

Ilharg, the Raze-Boar - Mid Power

Strong, unique effect in the Command Zone, but only having Red and colourless is a bit limiting in terms of big creatures.

God-Eternal Rhonas - Mid Power

Can be an Elfball finisher in the Command Zone, but compares unfavourably to Ezuri, Renegade Leader in that regard.

Fblthp, the Lost - High Power

Has competitive potential as a combo with Proteus Staff, but the combo is expensive and his shuffle effect makes it very fragile.

Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin - Mid Power

A different way to build Mono-R Goblins, looks less combo-centric than the Krenko, Mob Boss.

Tomik, Distinguished Advokist - Mid Power

Great at hosing Crucible/Wasteland type decks and it's a cheap creature.

Massacre Girl - Mid Power

Can create some crazy removal chains, but it's probably not going to be too consistent most of the time. There's also no clear path to victory that benefits from having access to her effect in the Command Zone.

Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion - High Power

Really powerful card selection and mana engine, but non-commander centric Mono-R combos aren't quite consistent enough for Comp.

Mowu, Loyal Companion - Mid Power

Having Trample and Vigilance plus an ability that lets it grow more might make Mowu a workable Voltron commander.

Niv-Mizzet Reborn - Maximum Power

It's Food Chain Tazri with higher potential for better outlet printings in the future. While the commander is new, the deck itself has proven its viability over a long stretch of time, so Maximum Power is appropriate here. Niv also has utility advantages over Tazri and is able to deterministically win through an opposing Aven Mindcensor. One of the two may be moved down if the other emerges as the better choice.

Roalesk, Apex Hybrid - Mid Power

This has some potential when using Clone effects as single-use sac outlets to get the double proliferate effect. Still a bit clunky all in all, but an interesting option for a UG counters + clones strategy.

Feather, the Redeemed - High Power

It's cool to see a sort of card advantage engine in Boros.

Storrev, Devkarin Lich - Mid Power

Could work well for a BG Superfriends list, but falls a short when compared to Meren otherwise.

Tolsimir, Friend to Wolves - Mid Power

Tolsimir mixes a lot of things at once, which runs the risk of creating an unfocused deck.

Ishai, Ojutai Dragonspeaker - Competitive -> High Power

Xantcha, Sleeper Agent - High Power -> Competitive

Sai, Master Thopterist - Mid Power -> High Power

Godo, Bandit Warlord - High Power -> Competitive

Vela, the Night-Clad - Casual -> Mid Power

Prime Speaker Vannifar - High Power -> Competitive

Niv-Mizzet, Parun - High Power -> Competitive

Added 4C Rashmi - Curious Control, Ramos Engine Thief, and Opus Thief to their respective Competitive deck tabs. Sample lists for the remaining new competitive Commanders will be added in the next update.

Why is Anafenza still in Mid Power?

While an Anafenza deck can be built to compete in High Power games, this Abzan hatebears shell works better with Tymna the Weaver + Sidar Kondo of Jamuraa. While Anafenza is a hate piece against Hulk decks, Reanimator strategies, and Gitrog, she doesn't do enough to stop these decks from setting up for their win conditions. Having a strong draw engine in the Command Zone makes it easier to both stop other decks and get closer to your own win condition. Losing out on Tymna in the command zone is not worth the effect Anafenza provides.

This is all for now. We'll be back with another update soon!

May 6, 2019 2:37 p.m.

Bad_Dog says... #2

Dear mods,

I would like to make a motion to put this list up for Circu temporarily while a primer is underway.

Thanks.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/black-lantern-corps-3/

May 6, 2019 4:05 p.m.

LabManiac_Sigi says... #3

Done.

May 6, 2019 4:33 p.m.

Bad_Dog says... #4

Thanks LabManiac_Sigi :)

May 6, 2019 4:42 p.m.

CommanderPatsy says... #5

Dear mods,

I would love to make a motion to put this deck up for Ezuri, Renegade leader since it is currently Vacant. Thanks :)

(http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/15-10-18-ezuri-renegade-leader-competitive/

May 6, 2019 5:59 p.m.

Bad_Dog says... #6

PatsyJD If you believe in it, bring your deck and come join the discord/ trice community.

May 6, 2019 6:22 p.m.

Hissp says... #7

Hi mods,

Great update - happy to see Godo bumped up to comp! :D

I'd recommend this deck this for Godo


Waiting for Godo - cEDH primer

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and this one for Xantha


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May 6, 2019 8:26 p.m.

CommanderPatsy says... #8

Bad_Dog Oh I would love to, didn't know there is one. Where can I join?

May 7, 2019 7:27 a.m.

Bad_Dog says... #9

PatsyJD

Competitive edh discord https://discord.gg/qyHTppY

Playedh discord https://discord.gg/tTdUuCt

Good luck

May 7, 2019 8:37 a.m.

goconnor says... #10

I noticed that there was no deck list for Prime Speaker Vannifar . If you need a list, I’ve been doing some research with my build Vannifar cEDH and currently it’s been winning about 80% of the games it plays against tier 1-2 decks.

May 7, 2019 10:54 p.m.

Hissp says... #11

goconnor 80%!! Better create a BEYOND MAXIMUM POWER tier :D

May 8, 2019 10:27 a.m.

Cymorg says... #12

goconnor, do you have any data for this?

I haven't mentioned this yet but I've been doing some tests with different Vannifar decks, and I'm trying to figure out which is the best combo line. I plan on posting the results here when I've completed the analysis.

If you have been recording your games, this could help.

May 8, 2019 4:48 p.m.

goconnor says... #13

Cymorg, I pretty recently started collecting very detailed data, but I can post it once I get a considerable amount, if you don’t want detail, I can just tell you that I currently have a 22-8 win to loss ratio (currently on a 7 win streak mostly against one of my friends who has a nearly optimized Teferi, Temporal Archmage deck).

May 8, 2019 5:31 p.m.

CyborgAeon says... #14

Cymorg if you're looking for the optimal vannifar list/lines, I'd recommend checking out https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/vannifar-evolution-101-competitive/#c3485341. Though I'm no Vannifar aficionado, these guys have it down. They've put in many hours of testing.

With that in mind, goconnor for your data to be most helpful, could you also add to your notes what you were up against? You mention an almost optimized teferi deck, so I'd assume it's just missing like 'nacle and transmute / something similar, but if those decks are all 'almost optimized' in that they're restrained by budget considerations or pet-cards etc. then please keep in mind that will have some sway in your data and the way that it's viewed.

May 9, 2019 8:45 a.m.

Inkmoth says... #15

So what's the decklist that made Niv-Mizzet, Parun competitive? I'd really love to see it.

May 9, 2019 8:53 a.m.

Not_a_Goat says... #16

If you do not mind me asking, I've seen that Niv-Mizzet Reborn has gotten a lot of fanfare here as the replacement for General Tazri , but when I took a look at the primer (and I realize that it is still early in testing), it looks like Niv as a backup plan only actually grabs 1 piece of the combo engine consistently, and the vast majority of his decklist cannot leverage the draw power attached to the commander.

I realize in cEDH, the commander is often the backup plan, but this seems important to note, in addition to his much more temperamental casting cost over Tazri, thoughts?

May 9, 2019 1:29 p.m.

Hissp says... #17

Niv-Mizzet Reborn isn't a backup plan. It's an outlet for the infinite mana generated by Food Chain .

May 9, 2019 2:06 p.m.

Connorav says... #18

How long until the next update in the description?

May 13, 2019 8:46 a.m.

crstisalie says... #19

The update is several posts up, from Sigi. Perhaps they forgot to add it to the description?

May 13, 2019 3 p.m.

thewyzman says... #20

I'm getting a little itch to play a control deck. I'm leaning Azorius, either Geist of Saint Traft , or Noyan Dar, Roil Shaper , the latter of which doesn't seem to have a win angle other than grinding out the table and praying? Any thoughts on those two?

My third option is maybe Tatyova, Benthic Druid , who seems a bit more versatile by having green, but I'm still leaning Azorius.

Anyone have experience with the abovementioned generals?

May 13, 2019 9:19 p.m.

Why did we remove Scion Druid Win for Scion of the Ur-Dragon ?

As time goes on I feel that Hermit Druid is less and less competitive, but I believe it is still the optimal way to play Scion.

May 13, 2019 9:45 p.m.

JohnnyCRO says... #22

@thewyzman

If you care more about color combination, I'd suggest you play Grand Arbiter Augustin IV or Brago, King Eternal instead of any of those. Of course, the choice depends on your meta so it's hard to make calls without that, but generally I think that both of these would hold their ground better than the 3 you mentioned.

As for what would be the best of your picks, again, this depends a lot on your meta. But generally, I'm a fan of Tatyova, Benthic Druid here. Green offers more for control game plan than white does and Tatyova itself makes a good use out of green's ramp spells. Locally, creature-heavy staxy meta that doesn't care much about graveyards, we have a Tatyova turns deck that does strangely well considering that she's usually the lowest ranked deck at the table by this list. There are always bigger threats than her to worry about, she dodges most of our stax relatively easily and she can get out of control quite easily. I'm more than a bit biased here and she works in my specific meta that might be quite different from yours, but I've seen Tatyova do stuff that make competitive decks scared. Stuff that I don't really think either Geist or Noyan can pull.

May 14, 2019 1:58 a.m.

Aphoticate says... #23

There was some talk before about having monthy updates. Is that still happening? Or have they happened and they're just buried in the comments?

May 14, 2019 10:01 a.m.

ShaperSavant says... #24

thegigibeast, the owner of this page, has been absent due to personal issues, so we haven't been able to issue updates via the update function. Our WAR update was given in a comment 8 days ago on May 6.

May 14, 2019 11:59 a.m.

Aphoticate says... #25

Thanks :)

May 14, 2019 12:12 p.m.

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