Hmm...lose Dissolve for either Chandra mainboard or Ashcloud Phoenix? Lose a Mystic for a Temple of Mystery?

+1 from me and one question:

How has this performed against the various decks: Jeskai Tokens Sidisi Whip Mardu Midrange Abzan Whip and U/W Heroic

I actually don't know yet. I haven't taken it to an FNM yet. I'm worried that it isn't as consistent as it needs to be. I can tell that U/W Heroic will be difficult for Game 1. But as for the rest I'm not sure.

I'm thinking of:

• -1x Elvish Mystic, +1x Temple of Mystery

• changing the spell suite to 3x Temur Charm, 3x Stubborn Denial, 4x Crater's Claws

• adding 3x Ashcloud Phoenix for pressure and resilience

The other big debates are on the SB.

• More Temur Ascendancy?

• Jace's Ingenuity vs Treasure Cruise?

• Run the fourth copy of Stubborn Denial from the side?

• Go with an extra Hornet Nest or Arc Lightning for aggro (b/c I'm not sure if the extra Surrak Dragonclaw is needed)?

Then there is the success of lists like these to consider. Many competitive Temur decks have board similar to this, while my current list opts for more control and board manipulation. I'm thinking I need to adopt one theme and go hard with it. I'm not good enough with board control to actually do much with it...all it actually does is detract from my monsters offense, which is how I want to win. Thoughts?

Okay then which focus: Aggression or Control? This will help design what spells you actually need. From huge amounts of Temur decks aggro is the way but I have seen some competitive Temur Control decks. They have been interesting but they have worked.

Maybe we could try to come up with a list for each, and then I could settle on which style of play I prefer for Temur. Whaddya say?

I play competitive Temur Control. It's essentially Blue-Red Splash Green for knuckleblades and Surrak. I have won 8 and lost 1 on the Untap ladder. My list is here: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/rhino-punchers/

I'm cool with that! Here's my aggressive list (it's my brothers): Time for Knuckle Sandwiches! (Temur Aggro)

Then can this list be the control one?

Works for me! Thanks for the pointers, fellas!

i would change reclimation sage to 1 back to nature to destroy the constilation deck, u/b heroic, suside black agro(with master of the feast, herald of tourmant and spiteful returned) or rabble red with a ton of things like hammer hand or dragons mantle i would also suggest one unravel the aether to either deal with u/r artifacts or deal with a courser of kruphix or a random god that someone is running and or the third spot of that i would run either a xenagod to help with a midrange game or at least one copy of anger of the gods to just hammer any sort of agro deck

... not one fight card... i'm very dissapointed in the name.

mentor6, don't worry. Temur Charm and Savage Punch are coming in. I apologize for the disappointment.

Thanks for the suggestions, cjk191997. I think I'll roll wIth Back to Nature at least.

What's the verdict on Ashcloud Phoenix? Should I run it?