Crater's Claws deals X damage to target creature or player.
Ferocious — Crater's Claws deals X damage plus 2 to that creature or player instead if you control a creature with power 4 or greater.
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Crater's Claws Discussion
3 months ago
Here's my take on what to cut:
Elvish Aberration: 6 mana is a lot just to ramp. Cycling is nice, but doesn't directly Ramp.
Ghitu Chronicler: Again, expensive. There are much better things to do with our 6-mana
Krosan Tusker: Same as before. Expensive for what it is, doesn't directly ramp.
Magus of the Candelabra: Unless we can double mana somehow, doesn't actually ramp.
Nessian Demolok: Can be useful, but I've found tribute usually gets paid with these cards since creatures are pretty easy to deal with.
Oblivion Sower: Fun card, but just doesn't fit the deck
Treasonous Ogre: Just seems really slow to me
Valley Rannet: Same reasons as the tusker
Void Attendant: Again, just doesn't fit with the deck
Vessel of Volatility: Slow, and I honestly prefer my ramp to be repeatable
Land. I usually stick to around 36, I'd go down to there and test to see if it works out all right (Maybe 1 or 2 more since you seem to have a good amount of lands that can be sacrificed).
The Chain Veil: Not exactly useful here. You have some Planeswalkers, but not enough to really make it worth it.
Blood Feud: Too expensive for what it does. Green has a lot cheaper options
Processor Assault: Good value for your mana, but how often does exile come up in your games?
Volcanic Vision: Has potential, but I'm not really seeing a whole lot of spells that make it great.
Yawning Fissure: Doesn't fit strategy of the deck
Fiery Fall: Expensive.
These are just my thoughts, hope it helped!
(Also, Pyromancer's Goggles seems good here.)
11 months ago
griffstick; Queen Marchesa looks fun, but I have no idea how I would build around her. Mardu isn't really a strong color pattern for me. I'd have to see how other decks on here run her, but I think it could be fun with Mathas, Fiend Seeker . Then, while their creatures are getting bounty counters, I'm creating 1-shot kill creatures. That just sounds horrific, lol.
ZendikariWol; Of all the Commanders you have listed here, the only one's I've attempted were Grand Warlord Radha and Ruric Thar, the Unbowed . I have a finished Ruric Thar deck on here that is private, but I'm not sure if I enjoy it enough to buy. It's also pretty expensive. One thing I sort of struggle with in regards to Radha is figuring out what to dump the mana into. I feel like it should be the kind of deck you'd see a player like me use - Tokens + big stupid spells, but I can't for the life of me get an appropriate balance between giant finishers like Crater's Claws or Rolling Thunder and bases that produce enough tokens to make it matter. I say tokens because it gives you more mana if you swing with a bunch of 1/1s then if you swing with a few 4/4s. I'll have to look into the rest of your suggestions and check out builds.
smackjack; Marath, Will of the Wild kind of confuses me. It seems to me that this is a Commander you want to constantly die, so that you can bring it out bigger and bigger? Or alternatively, dedicate a huge portion of your deck to putting +1/+1 counters on it? Seems like it'd basically be just two things: Ramp & Counters. I think I could make that work, but I don't know how solid of a build it would be. I am a bit worried that there would run into the conflict of resource management. If I dedicate resources to ramp and counters, I lose defense. If I begin to add defense, ramp and counters drop and Marath becomes less effective. I'll have to see how other users better than myself build it, because right now I haven't the slightest clue.
Woiteck; I've attempted The Scorpion God before now I think twice. Thanks for your deck link. Your deck looks like it's really well streamlined, and I can see the mistakes I was making. I'll definitely look into it a bit more :)
Boza; Hahaha I actually DO have a Shattergang Brothers deck :D It produces 19 different types of tokens, including the super rare Enchantment Creature tokens such as from Pharika, God of Affliction and Hammer of Purphoros . Right now my deck is priced at $1,130 - $1,177 on Card Kingdom :c lmao but once the new Theros set comes out, we should be getting more cards that can make Enchantment Tokens.
11 months ago
First thing I'll suggest additions
- mana ramp: Lotus Cobra - land etb you add one mana of any color - pushes your ramp faster
Amulet of Vigor - if a permanent you control etbs tapped, untap it. Not only ramps you faster, but gets past those pesky all your things come in tapped crud.
Exploration - you may play an additional land each turn, only . Very few things are more satisfying than having 7 lands turn 3 while everyone else is just putting down their third land.
Boundless Realms - search for as many basic lands as lands you control
Scapeshift - search for as many lands (basic or not) as you sacrifice
Kodama's Reach - you need a bunch of ramp spells to act with in case you don't have lord windgrace or he becomes too expensive to cast
Demonic Tutor - search your library for a card
Vampiric Tutor - search your library for a card
Beseech the Queen - search your library for a card
Summoner's Pact - pay or lose at your upkeep
Chord of Calling - search for or less CMC creature
Tooth and Nail - search for two creatures or put two creatures onto the battlefield from your hand
Rude Awakening - all lands you control become 2/2 creatures or you untap all lands or both
three of the five panoramas: The other two only fetch you one of the lands
Jund Panorama - search for any of the three basic land types you need
Grixis Panorama - search for swamp or mountain
Naya Panorama - search for mountain or forest
three of the temples:
Temple of Malady - BG scry 1.
Temple of Malice - BR scry 1.
Temple of Abandon - GR scry 1.
Things to do with
Fireball - x damage to creature or player
Crater's Claws - x damage to creature or player
Rolling Thunder - x damage to creature or player - can do more targets
Banefire - x damage to creature or player
Bonfire of the Damned xx to do x damage to tgt player and each creature he controls
Torment of Hailfire - choice of losing 3 life, sacrifice a nonland permanent, or discard a card - hilarious for huge numbers of x, and can swing the game beyond anyone recovering
Consume Spirit - x loss of life and x gain of life for you
Suffer the Past - x loss of life for x exiled cards from tgt player's graveyard. Kills their recursion and them
Dark Salvation - xx for x zombies and making a creature -x/-x until end of turn.
1 year ago
Stomping Ground , Beast Whisperer , Essence Warden , Marwyn, the Nurturer , Mina and Denn, Wildborn , Banefire , Finale of Devastation , Rolling Thunder , Animist's Awakening , Savage Twister ?, Volcanic Geyser , Crater's Claws , Molten Disaster , Blaze , Burn from Within , Collective Voyage , Devil's Play , Zhur-Taa Druid , Fire-Lit Thicket , Ring of Three Wishes , Diviner's Wand , Planar Portal , Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury , Garruk, Caller of Beasts , Insurrection
1 year ago
The Crater's Claws synergy is really cool actually. It let's you play Vexing Devil almost as a ritual to deal one extra damage for the same mana. I still think it's meh, but I have to agree it's pretty spicy ;)
1 year ago
Skinken thanks so much for the suggestions! I changed up my sideboard for Smash to Smithereens . My idea behind Vexing Devil is that if they do not take the 4 damage and hold out a removal spell, then it is better used on the devil than on the Avaricious Dragon . It is a 1 for 1 trade but they also usually use up an extra mana in the removal process. Lastly it has synergy with Crater's Claws . I’ve not yet played the deck enough to know how things usually go, so I’ll be keeping your suggestions in mind for what to swap them out for if it doesn’t go as planned!
1 year ago
I feel like it's actually under powered for four specific colors of mana. True it is only two colors, but the casting requires specifically two of each. I think you can lower it to just and it will be fine.
I could see it printed as a Legendary Creature among the 99, rather than the +1 in a Commander set, similarly to how Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer was.
I would be a little concerned though with the increasing commander tax. Obviously, first and foremost his most applicable use is to copy spells. Copying something like a Time Walk , Savor the Moment , Time Warp , or Capture of Jingzhou will be his most powerful asset. Next, I would assume it would most likely be red-based explosive spells. Rolling Thunder , Crater's Claws , Blaze , Banefire - that kind of thing.
Alongside an Izzet deck that can produce Treasure tokens would make it just insane, especially running Saheeli, the Gifted .
I don't think he's broken, per se, but I have concerns with just how much utility you can get out of him after his 3rd casting :/
1 year ago
So, I'm not sure I'll change your mind, but I'll explain why I prefer the cards over Foresee and let you judge beyond that however you feel most comfortable. Foresee , by rule, does let you theoretically see 6 cards, but thats probably the worst case scenario for that card since that means your scry 4 is putting everything on the bottom and you are drawing blind.
Cards like Fact or Fiction and Steam Augury allow you to do 2 things. 1) you get to leave your mana up for any other instants or interactions that you can have when it is not your turn. 2) It puts you 5 cards deep into your deck at instant speed, so after resolution (in theory) you have full access to whatever pile you choose on your turn. These cards are also excellent politics cards if there is a scenario in multiplayer that everyone is way behind one player and you need to dig for an answer, you can talk your way into more favorable piles. Lastly, I understand players have the fear of not being in control of your cards, but quite a few spell slinger decks utilize their graveyards aswell as their hand for redundant value, so even though you get a 2 or 3 card split, those other cards can always be reclaimed with other effects and playing green, you have several ways to buy back cards.
Manifold Insights is a card that I like solely because it boils down to pay 3 mana, get 3 non-land cards. It is excellent in mid to late games because more often than not the worst thing you get is ramp, which in itself is pretty good.
One thing I did not mention is you probably want to add Fall of the Titans to replace one of your fireballs. Personally I don't much care for Crater's Claws . In a vacuum, its just a much better card whether you have 12 mana to do 14 damage to one target or you cast a 2 drop, have 10 mana at instant speed to 2 targets seems much stronger.
Finally, I did see the changes and do like the adds. I am a little skeptical of cutting Regrowth as that is a very strong card and is better, in my opinion, than something like Serum Visions or Ponder . Those two are great cards, but Regrowth effects in commander are much stronger than 1 mana, draw 1. Especially in the late game.