Here you go... But now what?
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Posted on Dec. 9, 2015, 6:30 p.m. by amazingdan
After seeing this deck here:
I'll sleep when I'm dead...
Modern*
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I remembered seeing Treacherous Pit-Dweller and Akroan Horse a while back, and once I saw Sleeper Agent, I knew I needed to make a deck. I've been researching cards, but I really need help. Once I give my opponents creatures, how can I benefit? Giving my opponents Sleeper Agents and Akroan Horses aren't ETBs, so I can't abuse the Soul Sisters or the like. I don't honestly think it would be viable in any format other than casual, so don't limit your suggestions to just that.
Keep in mind I don't want to just give the creatures to my opponents and destroy or neuter them, I would like to generate advantages from the act of giving them the creatures, or from them having them. The Hunteds are things I've also been considering, but that's a bit of a different story than what I have in mind. Thanks for reading, have a great day(or night, or whatever)!
amazingdan says... #3
RoarMaster Thanks for checking this out! As for your suggestions, Avatar of Might, although at first glance it seems like a no-brainer, the "four more creatures THAN YOU" is annoying, especially with Akroan Horse. It would also require me to include green, which isn't necessarily a bad suggestion, but I'd have to do a bit more research on it. For the rest of your suggestions, as I said in the description, I don't necessarily want to neuter the creatures, but it is a way I can go if I can't find enough cards to support the strategy I'm looking for. Thanks again!
December 9, 2015 8:43 p.m.
RoarMaster says... #4
Why do you want to give your opponent unfettered creatures? Why not nullify them? Giving your opponent resources is a bad idea in general, and unless you can control the resources you give them, you are going to be in a bad way.
Honestly though there is not a ton of stuff that likes you to give opponent things, that green legacy enchantmemt(cant remember name) that lets you search a creature into play if opp controls more than you. Then there is Timely Reinforcements, which some times just whiffs.
Honestly though I think your deck is trying to do too many different things, and is not managing to do any of them very successfully :(
What does the biterblossoms do for reaching your goal? Is Bloodchief just there to nullify the drawback of sleeper? Will you ever be able to cast vengeful pharoh or firemane with only 20 lands? Is faithless looting worth it when only pharoh and firemane synergizes with it? Is the one life gain a turn worth running firemane in the first place? What is your win condition besides(hopefully) being able to kill all their creatures while leaving a sleeper in play? Is that a viable win condition?
Long story short, I think your deck needs more focus. Decide what your deck wants to do, set that goal, then build around that one thing.
Here is my 'Sleeper agent' deck if you want to check it out for ideas. Pillory of Lashes {Budget}
December 9, 2015 9:24 p.m.
amazingdan says... #6
RoarMaster First off, the deck that I linked to is not my deck, it is just a deck that made me want to make one. Second, I can see your confusion, and I'll try to clear it up for you. The easiest way to put it is that I'm looking for cards like Timely Reinforcements or Congregate and stuff like that. I know what enchantment you're talking about, but unfortunately it's out of my budget. All of the cards besides Treacherous Pit-Dweller have a built-in drawback for my opponent. I'm looking for more cards like those as well, and maybe I'll have a nullify subtheme running(probably, now that I think about it). I do appreciate you taking the time to help me with this, so thank you.
Recover819 I'm not sure what you are trying to do by linking me two of your decks. Puca's Mischief might be good to get my Treacherous Pit-Dwellers back, but I'm not sure what else. I did look at your decks, and the only thing I saw that might be good is Bazaar Trader. Thanks, I guess. I would have appreciated some description, but whatever.
December 10, 2015 10:46 a.m.
RoarMaster says... #7
Aight, well if you are just looking for stuff thats bad for your opponents to have, try Bronze Bombshell and Steel Golem. You then have the issue of needing to give those cards to your opponents, but you can do that with stuff like Confusion in the Ranks and Bazaar Trader.
December 10, 2015 6:50 p.m.
amazingdan says... #8
RoarMaster Thanks, those are good suggestions. Thank you so much for helping me with this. I'm going to try to start building tonight. Happy holidays!
RoarMaster says... #2
Avatar of Might likes your opponents to have critters. Stab Wound, Pillory of the Sleepless and One Thousand Lashes all nullify your opponents creatures while giving you incremental advantage.
December 9, 2015 8:09 p.m.