How to infinite (almost) anything with three cards.

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Posted on May 23, 2018, 1:31 p.m. by Kappeh

How to infinite (almost) anything with three cards.

Goal of this thread:

I hope to show you three cards that together can infinite almost anything. Don't believe me? Read on! These three cards are legal in Commander, Casual and Legacy.

The cards:

Khalni Gem, Vizier of Tumbling Sands and Freed from the Real.

The Combos:

Combo 1 - Infinite mana:

1) Tap Khalni Gem for two blue mana. 2) Tap Vizier of Tumbling Sands to untap Khalni Gem. 3) Use one blue mana on Freed from the Real to untap Vizier of Tumbling Sands. 4) Tap Khalni Gem for two of any colour mana. 5) Tap Vizier of Tumbling Sands to untap Khalni Gem. 6) Use the other blue mana on Freed from the Real to untap Vizier of Tumbling Sands.

You end up with two mana of any colour and are back in the original state of the board. Just rinse and repeat, watch the mana flood in.

Combo 2 - Infinite untap For this combo you will need another permanent that has a tap ability. For this example I will use Civilized Scholar  Flip.

1) TapCivilized Scholar  Flip to activate their ability. 2) Tap Vizier of Tumbling Sands to untap Civilized Scholar  Flip. 3) Tap Khalni Gem for two blue mana. 4) Use one blue mana on Freed from the Real to untap Vizier of Tumbling Sands. 5) Tap Vizier of Tumbling Sands to untap Khalni Gem. 6) Use the other blue mana on Freed from the Real to untap Vizier of Tumbling Sands.

You are now back where you started and can repeat the cycle activating Civilized Scholar  Flip's ability over and over again.

Get Creative:

So, is that all this can do?! The answer to that, my friends, is no! Oh no. The two combos above are just the start of it. Played correctly, you can do some pretty insane stuff. Adding in just one more card can allow you to take full control of the game easily. Let's go through some examples:

Example 1

Say you have an Elvish Piper on the field. You can use Combo 1 to generate some green mana, tap Elvish Piper to get a creature from your hand onto the battlefield, then use Combo 2 to untap Elvish Piper. Rinse and repeat. Throw in a card that allows you to draw cards like Azure Mage and you can get ALL creatures from your library onto the battlefield!

Example 2

Say you have a Willbreaker on the field. You can use Combo 2 to untap all of your oponents creatures. Even if they are not tapped, they are still being targeted by Vizier of Tumbling Sands's ability. Therefore, due to Willbreaker's ability, you gain control of them. So you can gain control of all your opponents' creatures.

Point Of Interest:

Another reason I really like this combo is that even without the full engine up and running, you can make some pretty disgusting plays. For example, say you have Vizier of Tumbling Sands out and enchanted with Freed from the Real, you can effectively pay one blue mana to untap any permanent that you want! Also, Khalni Gem is just a brilliant card, if you get it out early, you gain so much advantage. Or better yet, Gilded Lotus. Having both in a deck would make this combo much more consistant.

Final Words:

I hope you find this combo interesting. I don't know how people haven't found this already but it is proving to be one of the most powerful things I have ever put into a deck. (I built a Willbreaker deck with this combo). Have fun and let me know what you do with this.

Gidgetimer says... #2

I don't want to rain on your parade, but since this is in the legacy forums instead of casual you are going to get a little rain. It isn't that nobody has noticed this interaction before. It is that it does too little too late to be of any use in the competitive legacy meta. You can't afford to do stone nothing until turn 4-5 realistically and turn 3 in Magic Christmas Land.

Interesting infinite mana combo in casual though. I like jank and could see me doing this in kitchen table.

May 23, 2018 6:56 p.m.

enpc says... #3

Without further raining on your parade, infinite tap/untap loops have been a thing for a long time now. You could do the same with Kiora's Follower or before that, with Tidewater Minion. And I Am Superman has been used in many combos for a while now. The fact that these particualr cards being used together hasn't been brought up isn't surprising.

Also, "infinite almost anything with 3 cards" is a bit of a misnomer, even in your example you brought in a 4th card to do something other than just generate infinite mana. If you were talking about a Selvala, Heart of the Wilds tapping fo sufficient mana to work (say using a Darksteel Colossus) with Staff of Domination, this combo does more by itself as you can also draw cards without any additional input.

As pointed out, its a cute combo that could be made more efficient in an EDH deck, but anything outside kitechen table legacy would find it too slow and too prone to being interrupted. Don't let that stop you from brewing stuff like this, but it is worth keeping it in mind.

May 24, 2018 12:28 a.m.

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