So, I am trying to get rid of 3 more cards in my Teysa, Orzhov Scion deck Teysa's Darkest Hour. I would love a little help cutting and some suggestions. I think the deck will be the fastest teysa deck on tappedout when it's done and could be our t3 deck possibly putting her in t2; it is a lot like Saffi Eriksdotter decks.

Kari Zev has the potential to be excellent in French EDH, being roughly on par with Zurgo Bellstriker for aggro. However, in multiplayer, she suffers from all the same issues Geist of Saint Traft does, having an aggro strategy that simply doesn't work against 120 life points. Tier 5 is definitely where she belongs.

For what it's worth, playing Geist in a tempo control shell designed around Balance effects makes him a pretty decent general at mid-level tables. He's sort of like a mini Narset in that he's hard to answer and is actually a pretty great attacker once you have something like Steel of the Godhead on him. Tons of control and card advantage can help you to take games. As long as you build your curve with the notion of resolving Armageddon quite often, you're going to do ok. This strat sucks ass at competitive tables, but if your goal is to keep everyone sub 10 permanents and 2 of them are geist + minor voltron, he can do ok work. The only issue is that the casual tables where this strat is both fun and viable heavily frown upon you blowing up lands 3 times per game, but oh well...

Ok, the teysa deck above is 100 cards now.

Unfortunately cards arent judged by flavor but what they themselves do. In limited, yes she is awesome. In standard, maybe. Kitchen table, yeah sure. In modern, legacy, vintage probably will be unused. Commander unlikely but can happen. The monkey on the other hand is bonkers, yes. The monkey literally starts revolt.

well w/e you say narej ;)

just hope to see some proper! candidates for more tier 3 lists, and perhaps t4 , t5 , t2 or t1 ...as that will be insanely interesting for many people , if it be me hell i'de even love to see applications for the other tier list purely to have a wider option and view on what other people can actually do to prove if even an upvote on the tierlist it's placed in or just show of their creation!!!

you could even have polls or wathever to vote for the commander-deck that is being shown here as an example to add to the giant personal opinion of all of use together !!

Noctem is just a joke though... no comment on his trolling part.

Hey Guys, long time reader, first time poster.

First off, this is an amazing list; it seems well curated, fairly rated, and offers really good advice.

I had two questions:

1. Is it likely that Baral, Chief of Compliance might become an acceptable High Tide general in place of Jace, Vryn's Prodigy?

2. What prompted the move of Saffi Eriksdotter from T2 to T3? I run her as a pretty lean combo list and was hoping for insight into what issues she has since I may be biased towards her?

XD same I got scared goats scare me

All above jesting aside

1. this is currently being tested. See math above. currently comment 59. Although some other factors will need to be tested. I'm really trying to steer away from HT since something something variety
2. ??? I dont know myself

Have fun and feel free to comment more. Sure some might jest but we're all here for competitive and deck Exploration. We try to take users' advice in mind objectively. If you would like, feel free to try to make a cEDH deck. who knows, maybe one of your decks might end up on the linked decks (totally not free labor we actually have a lot of decks that need lists). Good luck.

@Not_a_Goat:

1. It's too early to tell for sure but right now the tentative answer is no. The math I did earlier basically just shows that he can potentially be a good High Tide commander, but not as good as Jace. Jace is better at searching for combo components in the early game whereas Baral in the early game just kind of sits there and does a Goblin Electromancer impression.

2. I'm not entirely sure but if I had to guess it would probably be because she's a combo commander that requires a sac outlet in the form of an artifact (usually Blasting Station or Altar of Dementia) in colors that have only one way to tutor for artifacts - Enlightened Tutor. Compare this to Abzan Boonweaver decks that use a similar combo (identical in fact - once you start Pattern of Rebirthing the first cards you grab are Karmic Guide and Saffi iirc) but have more tutors, more sac outlets, and more ways to actually win once you start looping. Saffi could try a more staxy build, but Captain Sisay outclasses her in this regard - it's hard to compare to a stax deck that can tutor for Gaddock Teeg, Linvala, Thalia, Kataki, etc. on command. So tier 3 makes sense for her.

I think Saffi's rightfully placed in T3. She's doing a charade of many tier 1/2 strategies but she's not quite there when it comes to any one of them. Boonweaver + one of the artifact outlets is pretty common in Saffi lists. However, she has a hard time getting to her artifact pieces. Boonweaver's also something that's hardly exclusive to her. What really seals the deal for me is the widespread tendency of Saffi to gravitate towards a fairly sizable hatebear strategy. With Gaddock and Sissay being things, it's really hard to justify running her. Saffi's only redeeming quality is that she's a cheap combo piece in the zone. Still, I don't think that's notable enough to justify running her given how easy she is to tutor up. If you want combos involving her, she's good in the 99.

I submit this list as a T3 Heartless Hidetsugu deck. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/hidetsugu-traitor-to-all/

I also submit this as a T3 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed deck. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mikaeus-extreme-not-so-budget-edh/

I'd like to suggest my Arcanis the Omnipotent list for consideration for T3. It's a hybrid of the stax oriented T1 Teferi build and the T2 Azami combo strategy. Being mindful of the relatively slow speed of the deck, I crafted a highly reactive and resilient combo build with some hate. It should do pretty well.

i'de like to submit this Omnath, Locus of Rage, as there is no t3 yet and i'de love to see some people help improve his deck as well !!! Omnath, Locus of Rage: Landfall race

So, I had a cute combo idea involving Quirion Sentinel, Cloudstone Curio, Aluren and a second creature cmc3 or less creature. Any thoughts about a good commander deck to put that in and what I could use the infinite mana for? Thrasios immediately comes to mind but I'm not sure what the wincon would be. Could be done similarly with any of the "Makes mana when it ETBs" creatures but Quirion seems like the best option.

Animar and elvish visionary

roon or rubinia so elvish visionary into lab man with support from e tutor and academy rector combos. Animar is a good choice too probably

Animar already plays both Cloudstone and Quirion. Aluren is usually a nonbo since it helps Animar's opponents more than him 90% of the time, but since you're building for the combo rather than the commander, it's fine. As for the second creature, anything that does something useful on EtB would be ideal. As TheDevicer suggested, a card engine like Visionary or Wall of Blossoms would be good. Though if you're using Animar, anything will work since the combo has the side effect of netting an infinitely large Animar.

Thinking about it, it would also turn into tutoring up anything I want in Momir Vig. It could give any deck running blue and green an instant Labman win.

Won't be the most efficient combo or win condition, but it might be worth playing around with.

Kiyomeii: Not really. That list isn't competitively tuned. Straight from the description: "This is a deck to have fun with." Considering they're running Solemn Simulacrum, Burnished Hart, and Cone of Flame, I don't think that their primary goal is optimizing the deck.

My fiend runs XenaGod. I'll talk about making his list a thing here.

Leinahtan i'm sorry if you know another omnath please suggest one, so there is atleast some one's list shown, if not no need for your comment, their primary goal of this deck is to be as competetive as possible and optimizing it, all help towards this is welcome...

if we'de have an example here it would help him/her ... in the meanwhile any help on his/her deck is always welcome...but in the meanwhile i hope they are actually working on it ...

i know most list here are created with cards they actually don't even own ...but i'de like to help them go all the way to have a beter outcome with what his/her commander can do.

The discription is outdated and like most here on the list is what you actually get : no proper information or outdated ;)...

Alright at this point im cutting interaction on my atraxa list. This is where I start asking for help with cuts. I know when I cut interaction, im at the desperate for cuts point. 5 cuts needed, thanks. Even better if I could bring back some interaction. Thanks in advance.

atraxa

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