Dross Scorpion + Myr Turbine combos don't work but good deck anyways +1 from me. Tokens don't go to graveyard, they get removed from the game.

Clockwurk Rule 110.5f: A token that's phased out, or that's in a zone other than the battlefield, ceases to exist. This is a state-based action; see rule 704. (Note that if a token changes zones, applicable triggered abilities will trigger before the token ceases to exist.)

The Myr Turbine + Dross Scorpion combos DO work. I used the Myr Turbine + Dross Scorpion + Altar of Dementia combo last night and killed 3 players in one turn.

Clockwurk And thanks for the +1, much appreciated!

Ok now I understand KingCarter it will go to graveyard, but not stay there.

Clockwurk Yup! Makes for a pretty nice set of combos.

Thoughts on the new Kozilek as commander?

Well I believe Grinding Station works as well as Altar of Dimentia

NotSquishedYet He's pretty great! I can almost consistently get him out by turn 4, turn 5 at the latest usually.

iBurgerKing Yeah, it is, but I already have Altar and they are both 2 drops and I didn't know about Grinding Station until after I had finished the deck with Altar in it.

NotSquishedYet Sorry I misunderstood your question. The NEW Kozilek isn't as good as the old Kozilek in my opinion. It's less consistent and here's why. You could have more card draw, you could have less card draw. So that sucks, and his countering ability forces you to discard, and in EDH, usually the only cards in your deck are very important cards, so why would you want to discard important cards? Also his counter ability only works if you have a card that is THE SAME CMC as the card you want to counter. So even IF you have a card you are willing to discard, if the CMC of that card is different than the CMC of the card you want to counter, you can't do it. On top of all that, Menace is a terrible trade off for Annihilator 4. Annihilator 4 FAR outweighs Menace. Annihilator is soooooo much better.

Fair point. I have found that he generally draws 5+ cards, and if you have any way to recur your graveyard, it is a powerful ability to counter spells. Annihilator doesn't matter much compared to menace if you have Prowler's Helm and Inquisitor's Flail. I, personally, enjoy being able to counter the occasional immediate win for free, but I have not tested the old one.

If I might ask, have you manually tested the new one as the commander for this yet?

NotSquishedYet I haven't had a chance to test him because I don't own him. But if you think about it, you don't need prowler's helm or inquisitor's flail if you are running Lightning Greaves Whispersilk Cloak Fleetfeather Sandals Swiftfoot Boots or Rogue's Passage Because he does 12 commander damage, you only have to hit your opponent twice, so have inquisitor's flail is nice, and you could definitely add it to this deck, but buy and large, it isn't needed, because you can usually protect Kozilek long enough to attack twice. I see what you're saying though, and if you like the new Kozilek, go ahead and run him, more power to you, but I usually find that when I need to get my commander out, I am usually around 4-6 cards in hand already so I would only draw 1-3 cards on average. IDK, I am leaving the country for 2 years and won't be playing Magic during that time so I likely will never test out the New Kozilek, but for the amount that I have played these last couple weeks, the old Kozilek is absolutely amazing.

Alright. To clarify, I was specifically referring to the Whispersilk Cloak effect. Thank you for quickly answering - I see that, indeed, you have tested how he would work to a decent extent. Maybe someday... but for now, I am glad you are enjoying the old one, and have him figured out as a good commander! Good luck, and have fun out there.