Ghave: Baby Makin' and Alimony
Commander / EDH
SCORE: 75 | 46 COMMENTS | 14646 VIEWS | IN 34 FOLDERS
Protean Hulk is wonderful —June 22, 2017
So after about two months of testing, I've determined that Protean Hulk + Sac outlet is phenomenal as it enables any other win condition I may want to use, so long as my graveyard isn't off limits. To accommodate its 7 mana cost, I have added in Pattern of Rebirth and Natural Order, removing Smothering Abomination and Seedborn Muse to fit these cards in, bringing my tutor total to a very high 17.
Also, because I basically removed all of the 'fair' cards in the deck, Fecundity has been less than stellar since I need certain resources to make use of it, and I may not be able to resolve Ghave every game. Its replacement, Sylvan Library, works phenomenally with the myriad (29!) shuffle effects in the deck and isn't reliant upon my board state.
PookandPie says... #2
I have always liked Sigil Captain even after I removed him a couple years ago, and I'm not sure I have any room in the deck for him now. Champion of Lambholt is just a cheaper option for what usually works out as the same ability plus some added benefits, while Juniper Order Ranger lets me go infinite with Persist creatures, which Sigil Cap would not do. If I ever want to squeeze in that effect again, I'll probably go with Ivy Lane just because it allows an infinite with Finks and Primus, though I'm not sure I could fit it in right now, lol.
I've never actually tried Crystalline Crawler. It can go infinite with Cathar's Crusade, Ghave, and itself, which isn't bad. I may look into that one some more.
Martyr's Bond is unfortunately too costly for the effect as my meta finishes games around turns 4-6, so I wouldn't have a lot of room to use it. Grabbing it via Academy Rector sounds hilarious, but grabbing Pattern of Rebirth and just winning seems a better option right now.
I'll check out your deck in a moment, thank you for the suggestions! I'll keep Ivy Lane Denizen and Crystalline Crawler in mind.
JaysomeDecks says... #1
Ivy Lane Denizen and Sigil Captain are two more in the Champion of Lambholt/Juniper Order Ranger vein. With these you'd have 5 creatures with this ability, making the odds of one being in your opening hand quite high. And it is the best stand-alone ability in the deck alongside Ghave.
Crystalline Crawler actually turned out to be a surprise combo piece in my deck. The ability to put +1/+1 counters on it and then remove them for mana has both practical and combo uses.
Martyr's Bond is basically super Grave Pact, as it not only wipes their creatures when you sac your tokens, but it also punishes all your opponents when someone tries to remove it or any of your other combo pieces.
Overall fantastic Ghave deck. I just recently completed mine, if you wanna look through, possibly leave some tips.
Ghave, Guru of Combos
April 30, 2017 6:09 p.m.