Timin, Youthful Geist
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Timin, Youthful Geist

Legendary Creature — Spirit

Partner with Rhoda, Geist Avenger (When this enters the battlefield, target player may put Rhoda into their hand from their library, then shuffle their library.)

Flying

At the beginning of each combat, tap up to one target creature.

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seshiro_of_the_orochi on Why Have There Been So …

8 months ago

That's obviously objectively correct. She's not an enabler, she's a payoff. But what she does by this is she basically unlocks a truckload of defensive effects that mostly couldn't be used at all without her helming the deck. The closest comparison for the strategy could be Rhoda, Geist Avenger and Timin, Youthful Geist. Timin taps down things and Rhoda benefits from it, but the pair is rather weak compared to Hylda. Timin is the enabler, but he needs to be expensive manawise to not be restrictive.

Let's imagine Hylda had an Opposition effect on herself. Her triggered ability had to be a lot weaker so she couldn't go "pseudo infinite" with herself, and then the deck would be very different. You'd propably play a go-wide strategy relying on Hylda to make room for big attacks. That's not a defensive play style.

This is quite a long comment already. The most important part is this:

What she does is she unlocks a truckload of defensive effects that mostly couldn't be used at all without her payoff ability. That way, while her ability is a payoff, her effect on the cards she plays is she enables them to be played. As such, she enables defensive play and thus definitely can be called a defensive card.

golgarigirl on My new power scale

3 years ago

One issue I have with 'Precon' nowadays is there is a vast discrepancy between the power levels in precons and the perception that they are weak based is based on older decks. Having played many precons out of the box over the years, the old Jeleva or Oloro precons were worlds weaker than the modern set. Playing with Prosper and Millicent, they are much more synergistic and have just flat stronger cards in them than the old precons did. They suffer a bit less from the 'three ways to build' philosophy/ rule the old decks used to, even though they still usually come with the old three commander options. Compare, if you will:

Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge, Nekusar, the Mindrazer, and Thraximundar in


Commander 2013 - Mind Seize Precon

Commander / EDH TinyTom99

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Millicent, Restless Revenant, Geist of Saint Traft and Rhoda, Geist Avenger + Timin, Youthful Geist in


Spirit Squadron (PRECON)

Commander / EDH QuinnMartini

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Spirit Squadron out of the box has rolled half my playgroup's "power level 7" decks. Part is, yes, the matchup. But that never would have happened in 2013.

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