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Standard Argy

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Testing against Grixis Control —Sept. 28, 2017

This deck does get slowed down by Control, but is sometimes able to land a Kitesail Freebooter is the early game, which also nabs a non-creature spell.

If that happens it does disrupt the tempo of the Control deck, putting it behind for a couple of terms.

Hostage Taker usually grabs something, in the late game.

Skysovereign, Consul Flagship is difficult for Control decks to deal with, if they can't Negate it.

Cradle of the Accursed creates problems because it can only be Countered with Disallow, and often provides the extra Crew member needed.

In summary, Control CAN beat this deck, but this deck can also beat Control.

It really comes down to card draw.

Argy says... #1

I should also point out that StuBi and I have been playtesting decks against each other.

That is a better way of seeing which deck wins.

September 27, 2017 1:50 a.m.

brandonsperry25 says... #2

Thanks for the update on Temur! That really puts a damper on my SCG Open coming up, but it's great information.

I'm playing in my first open on Saturday in Fort Worth with a Temur deck in my profile (linked here Temur Energy). Granted, I don't expect to finish top 16 or something crazy like that, but I wanted to be competitive and have a good time. Hoping to see some of the new stuff make it into the tournament like this to see how it hangs. But I will definitely be way more aware of getting things started asap with the pirates having this much control. If that means I ping stuff as soon as it comes out instead of waiting for bigger stuff, then so be it.

This may not be the place for it, but have you considered doing Naya dinosaurs at all? I would be curious to see how you would go about. I plan to make a dino EDH but not sure I would run anything in standard. I'm afraid it would be too slow. Plus Hostage Taker is downright scary.

September 27, 2017 8:40 a.m.

TheRedGoat says... #3

So, to rephrase my question that never got answered before, what would be the reason for excluding red in your build here? I'm not suggesting as much as I prefer non-control decks, but I still want to play pirates, so I'm curious as to why you, a very professional player I've noticed, have chosen to play UB.

September 27, 2017 11:21 a.m.

Argy says... #4

TheRedGoat I tested with and didn't go with it for these reasons:

  1. It made the deck less consistent.

  2. I found Admiral Beckett Brass difficult to trigger.

  3. I preferred Hostage Taker to Admiral Beckett Brass.

  4. Admiral Beckett Brass wasn't as good a bomb as Skysovereign, Consul Flagship.

  5. The spells I would add to this deck would be removal spells. The deck plays better with the spells that interact with Creatures.

I would call myself an experienced, rather than a professional, player.

I usually do well at my LGS, if I have built an effective deck.

brandonsperry25 I consider nayasaurusrex {updated 26/9} by Kizmetto to be the best Naya Dinosaur deck on this site.

You might want to check it out and upvote it.

September 27, 2017 1:58 p.m.

Kizmetto says... #5

Aww, thanks for the shout out Argy !

I would normally suggest a card or ask questions, but looks like you've got a solid list and the testing to back it! Are you going to be building this in paper form and taking to FNM? Looking forward to some write ups to see how it goes!

September 27, 2017 9:34 p.m.