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- 3x Desperate Castaways
- 2x Dreamcaller Siren
- 4x Hostage Taker
- 4x Kitesail Freebooter
- 2x Ruin Raider
- 3x Siren Stormtamer
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March of the Drowned is overpowered! Definitely run some in the side. :) I love your deck, I have a UB pirate deck as well and it's awesome how different they are and yet they both seem really good. I love the vehicle theme you've taken here. I played with Fell Flagship at prerelease last night and it did really well. I'm debating on putting it in my deck as well but I'm not entirely sure what to cut from it at the moment.
September 23, 2017 10:28 p.m.
Thanks for the kind words.
I'll take a look at your deck.
September 23, 2017 11:20 p.m.
i thinking what you will do agaist Carnage Tyrant decks?
September 25, 2017 3:21 a.m.
All of the pirates are evasive so she can just fly over the dinosaurs or kill them in the fist few turns, the answer to carnage tyrant is outracing, or you could add Doomfall in the sideboard, which answers carnage tyrant in 2 ways
September 25, 2017 8:36 a.m.
Also Argy if you want sideboard against control you could add in Kefnet the Mindful and board in dissalow, negate, and vraska'a contempt, especially against u/b control with scarab gods. This way you can do a draw go plan in addition to having more threats, and if they have a red removal package instead of a black one if you stick a kefnet it's great for you.
September 25, 2017 8:45 a.m.
This deck looks pretty awesome, not gonna lie. The pirates are going to be intense in standard.
September 26, 2017 5:19 p.m.
Control does give you fits Argy
I tried it against my post-rotation bolas deck, and 2-0'd it. HOWEVER your blink spells and hexproof spells make it harder for me to kill things so that's a bonus
September 26, 2017 9:36 p.m.
Link cards. It's seriously not that difficult.
Calispotato nice suggestion.
I will keep Doomfall in mind.
AgentGreen I'm curious. When you test do you act as though you can't see the other deck you are playing against?
Do you deliberately make the mistakes you might irl?
Do you Sideboard both decks?
Just asking coz I'm pretty sure I can beat Control decks in testing if I don't test like that.
However, that is how I DO test.
I already said Control is a tough matchup. I do have some Sideboard cards to use against it, though.
September 26, 2017 11:44 p.m.
I should also point out that StuBi and I have been playtesting decks against each other.
That is a better way of seeing which deck wins.
September 27, 2017 1:50 a.m.
Thanks for the update on Temur! That really puts a damper on my SCG Open coming up, but it's great information.
I'm playing in my first open on Saturday in Fort Worth with a Temur deck in my profile (linked here Temur Energy). Granted, I don't expect to finish top 16 or something crazy like that, but I wanted to be competitive and have a good time. Hoping to see some of the new stuff make it into the tournament like this to see how it hangs. But I will definitely be way more aware of getting things started asap with the pirates having this much control. If that means I ping stuff as soon as it comes out instead of waiting for bigger stuff, then so be it.
This may not be the place for it, but have you considered doing Naya dinosaurs at all? I would be curious to see how you would go about. I plan to make a dino EDH but not sure I would run anything in standard. I'm afraid it would be too slow. Plus Hostage Taker is downright scary.
September 27, 2017 8:40 a.m.
So, to rephrase my question that never got answered before, what would be the reason for excluding red in your build here? I'm not suggesting as much as I prefer non-control decks, but I still want to play pirates, so I'm curious as to why you, a very professional player I've noticed, have chosen to play UB.
September 27, 2017 11:21 a.m.
TheRedGoat I tested with and didn't go with it for these reasons:
It made the deck less consistent.
I found Admiral Beckett Brass difficult to trigger.
The spells I would add to this deck would be removal spells. The deck plays better with the spells that interact with Creatures.
I would call myself an experienced, rather than a professional, player.
I usually do well at my LGS, if I have built an effective deck.
You might want to check it out and upvote it.
September 27, 2017 1:58 p.m.
Aww, thanks for the shout out Argy !
I would normally suggest a card or ask questions, but looks like you've got a solid list and the testing to back it! Are you going to be building this in paper form and taking to FNM? Looking forward to some write ups to see how it goes!
September 27, 2017 9:34 p.m.
Kizmetto yep, already started building this deck.
My partner StuBi will be playing it. He doesn't often write very detailed match reports, but I will try to do some summaries on here.
September 28, 2017 12:57 a.m.
I was wondering, I would think that Aethersphere Harvester is not much in synergy with the deck since you have both limited energy and no interaction with the the cards you're playing. I was wondering what you would think of Panharmonicon? The ability to take 2 creatures with Hostage Taker, take 2 cards with Kitesail Freebooter and deal 6 damage with Skysovereign, Consul Flagship and tap 4 creatures with Dreamcaller Siren seems quite strong to me.
Feel free to disagree. Just want to get your thoughts since I have limited ability to try out decks and ideas.
October 3, 2017 11:13 p.m.
I gain 6 life, my Opponent loses 6.
It can also block for days, and has brilliant evasion through its Flying.
I've mucked around with Panharmonicon in Standard decks.
If they are specifically built around it, it is brilliant.
Otherwise it tends to be too slow to get real benefit.
I'm not going to build this deck around it, as that is not where I want to go.
October 3, 2017 11:44 p.m.
Fair points. I am less familiar so I'd thought I would ask just out of curiosity. I was wondering if you'd mind considering another replacement for dive down I'd like to suggest Supernatural Stamina. My reasoning is that it will allow 2nd triggers to "enter the battlefield" and it will shake off any possible negative effects as well as boost power upwards of 3 or even 4 when Fellship is in play... It will also survive board wipes too.
October 4, 2017 1:59 a.m.
I call it the Black Counterspell.
I will have a good think about it.
The thing that Dive Down does better is that it makes a Creature Hexproof for the rest of the Turn.
That can be helpful if someone tries to get rid of Hostage Taker with 2 spells, instead of just one.
It also allows me to gain more life if Arguel's Blood Fast is flipped, which can sometimes be important.
October 4, 2017 2:04 p.m.
I guess it has its faults too since it doesn't protect its self form hostage taker, target exile cards. Could still be good for aggressive plays and if the meta is better suited for it. Let me know what you think
October 4, 2017 2:13 p.m.
October 4, 2017 2:42 p.m.
Thanks for the kind words, ROUROU
We've stared testing in paper and I can see a few tweaks that can be made.
October 4, 2017 3:03 p.m.
i made this version of it http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/black-blue-takes-the-control/gonna try it out to the next fnm
October 4, 2017 4:45 p.m.
Report back here on how your deck goes, please.
October 4, 2017 11:58 p.m.
Hey, its sad you think Fathom Fleet Captain isn't making a difference as you hoped. I have been playtesting the deck too and i can see that i have problems with the guy too. It almost feels shackling with him since i hold off resources to make several pirates and I don't get many chances to use it. I don't think it is that bad but you have your reasons. I was hoping i could convince you to not use Desperate Castaways for its replacement. Id prefer Storm Fleet Aerialist . My reasons are that it doesn't have any attacking restrictions, its flying, it has the ability to be a 2/3 like the castaways and it can still crew the harvester. It's entirely up to you but i just wanted to recommend it. Hope it works out.
October 6, 2017 8:28 a.m.
You know whats interesting? You use Storm Fleet Aerialist and if you replace Ruin Raider with Siren Lookout (which is a card draw in it's self with explore and uses Siren's Ruse to do it again) Aside from Hostage taker, you basically have all fliers even with the artifacts... It makes me want to recommend fitting Favorable Winds in this deck at that point... Just a thought.
October 6, 2017 8:39 a.m.
Please link cards like this in future, so I can more easily see what you are saying.
I don't need another 1/2 Flier in the 2 drop slot.
Kitesail Freebooter is weak as it is, the only advantage being that it can grab a card on the way in.
Siren Lookout is even worse value. Another 1/2 Flier that MIGHT get you card draw ONCE, and costs ?
It's VERY sad that you can't see the value of Desperate Castaways, which has strengthened the deck so much.
Terrific for early defense, and the extra copy of Aethersphere Harvester sees it ready to attack on Turn 3, most of the time.
I'm going to ask you to hold off Commenting on this deck for a while.
In the past couple of days you've made FIVE Comments, which is a lot, and you seem to be ignoring the reasons I've given in the Description for my card choices.
My partner StuBi and I have been playtesting this deck irl and it's working very well.
That's a very different situation than playtesing against oneself.
October 6, 2017 11:58 a.m.
It's totally cool. Just my 2 cents. Again, hope it turns out well.
October 6, 2017 12:07 p.m.
I typoed above.
This is what I meant to say:
"Siren Lookout is even worse value. Another 1/2 Flier that MIGHT get you card draw ONCE, and costs MORE."
October 7, 2017 3:10 a.m.
Great list! Not too much for me to suggest that you don't seem to be considering already. Have you been having success with this in Standard?
October 14, 2017 2:14 p.m.
JakeHarlow it's been playing OK in Standard. Nothing worth reporting at this stage.
We keep making tweaks to improve it, and they have made a difference.
October 14, 2017 8:48 p.m.
We've also been tweaking the Sideboard to match the local meta.
October 15, 2017 3:38 a.m.
Thanks for the great deck! I made it and have been loving it. Do you have any tips for using the sideboard? Like what should I swap out of the deck and such. Anyway thanks again for the great list!
October 26, 2017 12:58 a.m.
Glad you're having fun with it!
It's been performing well in our local meta.
If you click the link about that says "Sideboard" you will see some notes about what the different cards are there for.
If you click "Sideboard Notes" you will find some specific strategies we have trailed with success.
October 26, 2017 9:16 a.m.
shadow9823 no problem.
Just so you know, it can feel weird if someone calls you dude, and you are not male.
Thats why I always try to use gender neutral language.
Dont want Magic to start to feel like it s only for blokes. ;0)
October 29, 2017 10 a.m.
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