Precursor Golem question

Asked by TenaciousTaurus 13 years ago

Ok so say I have Precursor GolemMTG Card: Precursor Golem on the field alone with the two golem tokens. If I target one with FlingMTG Card: Fling does that mean I can fling all three?

GoblinsInc says... #1

  1. Sacrificing a creature with Fling does not target and will not trigger precursor's ability. If you sacrifice a single golem with Fling, Fling will deal damage equal to the sacrificed creature's power to its target. So a flung precursor will deal 3 damage only.
  2. If you sacrifice a golem token with fling and target another golem while precursor is out, yes fling will be copied. Each copy will deal the same damage as the original [ 3 damage in this case].
March 27, 2012 1:39 a.m.

BuLLZ3Y3 says... #2

So then GoblinsInc, you would have to sacrifice one of the tokens to pay the additional cost of FlingMTG Card: Fling, and then with this first FlingMTG Card: Fling target another golem (most likely the second token), thus causing FlingMTG Card: Fling to be copied twice? You would then be required to target your other golems with the two copies of FlingMTG Card: Fling, correct?

So in short, if you attempted to copy FlingMTG Card: Fling via Precursor GolemMTG Card: Precursor Golem's ability, you would just lose your Precursor GolemMTG Card: Precursor Golem and not do any damage to your opponent?

That is assuming I understand what you said correctly.

-BuLLZ3Y3

March 27, 2012 3:09 a.m.

So if I would Titanic GrowthMTG Card: Titanic Growth Precursor GolemMTG Card: Precursor Golem, would it go to all other golems? Even tokens produced by say Blade SplicerMTG Card: Blade Splicer?

March 27, 2012 3:15 a.m.

OmegaSerris says... #4

In that situation, you would only get one copy of fling since at that point you only have two golems (Precursor and the targeted token). You would be forced to target the Precursor with the copy.

So yes. You could pretty much just kill all you golems and get no real benefit this way. But if you fling a golem token at your opponent or any other nongolem target, then Precursor's ability never comes into play.

March 27, 2012 3:19 a.m.

OmegaSerris says... Accepted answer #5

@buky92

Yes, that is precisely what Precursor's ability is for. It also hits Blightsteel ColossusMTG Card: Blightsteel Colossus, Etched MonstrosityMTG Card: Etched Monstrosity, Solemn SimulacrumMTG Card: Solemn Simulacrum and many other Golems out there. It doesn't matter how they come into play or even which player controls them. When an instant or sorcery targets a single golem, ALL golems will be targeted by copies of that spell. Each and every one. (Unless they can't be targeted of course, like with Shroud or Protection)

March 27, 2012 3:25 a.m.

BuLLZ3Y3 says... #6

buky92, to answer your most recent question about Titanic GrowthMTG Card: Titanic Growth and Precursor GolemMTG Card: Precursor Golem, yes, it would. Anything that is a Golem creature type would receive the benefits. So Solemn SimulacrumMTG Card: Solemn Simulacrum or Blightsteel ColossusMTG Card: Blightsteel Colossus would also gain the effect, since they're all golems.

-BuLLZ3Y3

March 27, 2012 3:25 a.m.

BuLLZ3Y3 says... #7

Gah, ninja'd by OmegaSerris. D=

-BuLLZ3Y3

March 27, 2012 3:26 a.m.

OmegaSerris says... #8

Sorry about that. :-)

March 27, 2012 3:29 a.m.

Sweet thanks guys :) I'm looking to make an artifact deck and I wanna focus on golems :)

March 27, 2012 3:35 a.m.

Shavingfoams says... #10

you may wanna stay away from precursor. He makes kill spells into boardwipes.

March 27, 2012 2:10 p.m.

OmegaSerris says... #11

Only if you play him blindly. Putting him into a deck (along with any other card) means you should be well aware of his weaknesses and how to exploit his strengths. Sure a Doom BladeMTG Card: Doom Blade will kill his whole team, but an Apostle's BlessingMTG Card: Apostle's Blessing will not only protect them all but has a good chance to make them unblockable/super blockers for the turn. They also turn Twisted Image MTG Card: Twisted Image into an Ancestral RecallMTG Card: Ancestral Recall (a very broken card in formats today). Those are just two examples of the many potential combos with him.

It's like saying "Don't play Abyssal PersecutorMTG Card: Abyssal Persecutor because you can't win the game." Sure, at face value you CAN'T win the game once he hits the field and your opponent decides not to kill him for you. But I bet you $5 that any decent deck with him in it has some form of sacrifice outlet to kill him off once the opponent is at or near zero life. Actually, it is such a popular strategy that many players kill him on sight anyways, even though he grants them basically the strongest advantage possible in the terms of the game.

March 27, 2012 9:37 p.m.

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