Non-Combo Vannifar
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on Nov. 3, 2021, 2:18 p.m. by LivingThing
Like the title states, I've been wanting to build Prime Speaker Vannifar, but playing the same combo every game seems both too string and exceedingly boring. However, I want keep a combo-y feel to the deck and make it feel distinctly Simic without fully committing to the pod combo. I'm fine with a pod wincon, but I want the deck to do other cool things besides try to get the pod combo off the whole game. Any suggestions welcome!
RNR_Gaming says... #3
Unfortunately, she's not great as a value commander/casual commander - she'll always be KOS. Randoms and seasoned players both know that if you get the untap you threaten to win.
However, you could have the good ol' rule zero talk and be like "hey I'm not on the instant win plan - I'm playing things like Young Wolf and Strangleroot Geist then plan to curve into a Craterhoof Behemoth and turn sideways.
November 3, 2021 3:41 p.m.
Omniscience_is_life says... #4
If you're ok with dropping the combo aspect entirely, toolbox Vannifar is a really cool way to go. Just tutor up whatever the situation calls for, whether that's a Caustic Caterpillar, Collector Ouphe, or Endurance--you'll always have a good play to make!
November 3, 2021 3:43 p.m.
RNR_Gaming says... #5
Its unfortunate she's only sorcery speed lol sometimes you need answers right then and there and she cannot provide till your turn :(
November 3, 2021 6:37 p.m.
Build the the average Prime Speaker Vannifar then take out Intruder Alarm and replace it with Simic Ascendancy.
That should put you right were your describing.
goodair says... #2
the problem with adding another chain that doesn't win, are you willing to go through with it and probably lose to some blowout? She will still bring the same heat of you untapping with it and winning.
November 3, 2021 3:04 p.m.