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@ Xindlepete -- The mill deck you describe sounds a lot like my deck, Perfection of Milling. I have spent dozens, maybe even hundreds of hours making this a viable deck in standard competitive MTG, and believe that I have succeeded. I'm glad there's someone else out there who is really devoted to making a lesser-know strategy more prominent in standard play.

May 16, 2013 9:35 p.m.

I apologize if I repeat anything Xindlepete has said, but I'm wayyy too lazy to read everything he has written :P

I think the first step is getting you down to 60 cards, so here are my recommended cuts:

• -2 Deathcult Rogue -- He's an OK semi-unblockable creature, but there's better
• -2 Contaminated Ground -- I have found that in mill decks, every card must contribute to mill
• With the comment above said, I think 2x Way of the Thief and 2x Diabolic Tutor can be dropped. You'll get this deck consistent enough that tutoring isn't needed.
• -2 Chronic Flooding -- It really only works for a turn or two, and then your opponent won't really need that land. This brings you one under, so up the land count to 23.

With those suggestions, I think the next step is consolidating into a single idea: milling with cipher (so unblockable creatures).

Cards I'd consider removing include Wight of Precinct Six , Death's Approach , and Dying Wish (since you have Essence Harvest . I'd consider adding: Hands of Binding , an additional Invisible Stalker , AEtherling , and Artful Dodge .

I'd be happy to explain anything I've mentioned above, and feel free to ask me any questions! I hope this helps! If you want some ideas, feel free to check out my mill deck Perfection of Milling, and my Extort/Cipher deck Perfection of Extortion.

May 16, 2013 9:19 p.m.

I think you can go one of two directions with this deck, but you currently seem torn between divergent strategies.

Option 1: B/W extort/lifegain, you'd be using your Exquisite Blood and Vizkopa Guildmage combo as well as the Rhox Faithmender , but would drop the sac engines and token-generators.

Option 2: B/W Tokens, which would utilize Sorin, Lord of Innistrad and Lingering Souls , as well as other token cards.

And of course, there are some other ones out there, but these are the common ones. You could also take a more "Johnny" approach, but just let us know :)

Once you decide on a focus, I can give some more specific suggestions. Additionally, your card counts should be consolidated to only include 12-14 different cards (excluding lands) to increase consistency.

May 16, 2013 9:06 p.m.

@ KrazyCaley -- Out of the three I like Far / Away the most. Even though I run few creatures, I want to have the opportunity to use the card I add anytime, opposed to being forced to sac' something. But yea, I feel the same way about Pilfered Plans and Reap Intellect - just not completely sold on their uselessness. What do you think I should drop in place of Far / Away ?

@ Cdbwater -- It really can't. Wight of Precinct Six relies on creatures in the grave, and that may not be possible against some control builds. It is also very open to removal, and has no evasoin (i.ie flying)

@ Trumbone -- You make the instant speed of Thought Scour sound bad. That is the main reason why I am reluctant to drop it for Pilfered Plans . Plans also costs an additional two for just one draw, which I don't believe is worth it.

May 16, 2013 7:30 p.m.

Hey Caley,

When you get a chance, I was wondering what your thoughts are regarding Far / Away , Pilfered Plans , and Reap Intellect , specifically for my mill deck Perfection of Milling.

Thank you in advance for any insight!

May 16, 2013 4:59 p.m.

@ acceleratum -- Using the Invisible Stalker s and Duskmantle Guildmage is a very different strategy than what I am using in this deck. Usually if I cast a large Mind Grind , I'm in a position that allows for me to end my turn tapped out. I win the same two ways you mention; either full-out mill or direct damage with Consuming Aberration . I'm hesitant on Far / Away , but what do you suggest for a change?

@ ygamretuta -- Hmm I agree with the sideboard change for Notion Thief . I still see Reap Intellect as a "mill card," as it can take a significant chunk out of your opponents' hands. But, I agree that late-game, it wouldn't have as much potential as Mind Grind , so I'll hold off on that change for now.

For now, I have made the following changes:

• 2x Glaring Spotlight ---> 2x Notion Thief (SB)
• 4x Mind Sculpt ---> 4x Breaking / Entering
• 2x Fog Bank ---> 2x Crypt Incursion (SB)

May 16, 2013 4:54 p.m.

I am interested in quite a few of your cards, which would total to about $15 (if I my price estimates are correct). If you're located in the US, is there a possibility of us working something out? I appear to not have anything from your wants list, but maybe you'll see something that you like. Thanks!

May 16, 2013 4:33 p.m.

I have one last assignment and then my school year is over -- when that is done, I'll playtest a few times if you'd like.

I agree with adding Cavern of Souls . I think the mana base shouldn't be too much of a problem, except for Mikaeus, the Unhallowed -- his triple B cost could lead to some problems, but we'll figure that out through playtesting.

Liking the name!

May 16, 2013 3:26 p.m.

@ zandl -- Do you think I should run more?

@ Tempest -- Yup, I'll probably end up flickering it as a last resort if I need to; it's just nice to have a built-in save.

May 16, 2013 7:31 a.m.

@ zandl -- well. I thought it was still around $6 a piece... Woops. How many would you suggest adding? I never thought more than two was necessary. Also, I think the messed up mana curve is still a little worrisome.

May 15, 2013 5:20 p.m.