Commander Question - Colours
Commander Deck Help forum
Posted on Aug. 21, 2015, 3:31 p.m. by Halliphax
Hi guys,
New to the forum and MTG in general, so I have a question.
I've built a red and white deck, no other colours at all, but I also have Progenitus which I wanted to use as a commander, is this legal?
I thought it would be considering all the cards in my deck fall under the commander's colours (which in this case are two of each colour)
If this ISN'T legal, would it be legal if I just put one or two blue, black and green land cards in the deck?
Thank you!
Not to mention you'd be playing a lot of lands that are next to useless for your entire deck, only being able to use for colorless.
August 21, 2015 3:35 p.m.
Based on the question... Do you not plan on running lands for blue, black, and green? It's going to make it really tricky to get your general out if you don't. I'd just find a red/white general if this is the case. You need synergy, not just a good deck and an out of place good general.
August 21, 2015 3:40 p.m.
Thanks for the replies guys!
I had only planned on using red and white mana for commander and casual games.
For those wondering, I'm chucking some (3) Quicksilver Amulets in my deck and hoping for the best to get the big guy onto the field.
August 21, 2015 3:49 p.m.
Umm, you can only run 1 of each card in EDH. How would you have 3 amulets?
Also, amulet can't put him into play because he's not in your hand (he's in the Command Zone).
You may need to read up on the rules of EDH.
August 21, 2015 3:52 p.m.
ComradeJim270 says... #7
I would reccomend against using Progenitus unless you actually want to do five color. Quicklsilver doesn't work from the command zone and getting the lands to cast your commander will be very hard. Your commander should help your strategy. If you run this commander he will be pretty much useless. I would recommend that if you want Boros colors you pick a Boros commander.
EDIT: Oops, wrong link... here are your options!
August 21, 2015 3:54 p.m. Edited.
Sorry I should clarify, I meant if I'm playing a casual ("normal") game I'd be using Quicksilver Amulet to get him on the field from my hand, since I'm using a red/white deck.
Thanks for the suggestions, think I'll pick up a red/white commander then.
Any ideas for a good red/white commander?
August 21, 2015 4 p.m.
What type of creatures and spells do you play? As far as what commander, it needs to go with the synergy of the deck. What's your play style?
August 21, 2015 4:22 p.m.
Iroas, God of Victory, Aurelia, the Warleader, and Gisela, Blade of Goldnight would be my first go to for a red/white general.
August 21, 2015 4:32 p.m.
Epochalyptik says... #11
Rules questions are supposed to be asked in the Q&A, per the warning banner above every new thread field. But, given the direction this thread has developed, I guess I'll leave it here.
As the others have said, Quicksilver Amulet is useless to you. Progenitus will be in the command zone, which is NOT your hand. And there are no effects that return cards from the command zone to your hand.
Further, the rules of Commander do not change between casual ("normal" doesn't describe anything in this context) and competitive Commander. The only difference is that house rules may potentially allow you to do some things, but your playgroup has to agree on the scope of those rules first.
August 21, 2015 4:40 p.m.
Ironas for more creature based (small quick creatures), Gisela for more burn/spell based, and Aurelia for more of a all around deck (medium sized creature, still decent spell base). But they could all serve you well.
August 21, 2015 4:41 p.m.
hyperlocke says... #13
OK, considering you're new to MtG, I'm just putting this out there; feel free to ignore this if you are more experienced than I think you are...
If you want to play Commander and Casual, you will need two separate decks. Casual refers to a (in almost all cases) 60 card deck with no specific format (read: without banlist), Commander refers to a 99 card singleton (each card just once, except basic lands), plus your commander.
You can play a Commander deck in a Casual setting (depending on how your playgroup feels about this), but it will be difficult, consistency-wise. A good rule for 60 card decks is to play 4 of each of your key cards and develop the rest from there.
If you want to play Commander, I suggest a Commander in your colors, so you can use it (Progenitus is legal to use but it's better to choose a Commander in your colors to provide some synergy).
If you want to play a 60-card Casual deck with Progenitus, I would play other fatties and stuff like Elvish Piper or Reanimator (put the fatties in your graveyard with Entomb et al. and return them with things like Animate Dead).
August 21, 2015 8:32 p.m.
Thanks for all the suggestions guys!
Bought both Gisela, Blade of Goldnight and Iroas, God of Victory
Going to test them both out and see which one works best, probably Iroas considering it costs so little to get him onto the battlefield and he gives existing creatures unblockable abilities.
Thanks again folks!
August 23, 2015 10:41 a.m.
ComradeJim270 says... #15
I think those are both excellent choices. The cool thing is that even though you can only have one as a commander, the other one can be in your 99 cards.
August 23, 2015 1:58 p.m.
Yeah totally, can imagine Gisela, Blade of Goldnight being pretty annoying for opponents.
Apologies but I just have one last question, I'm not sure I fullt understand the ability of Goldnight,.
" If a source would deal damage to an opponent or a permanent an opponent controls, that source deals double that damage to that player or permanent instead."
Does this mean if I use a spell, artifact or creature and it will deal 2 damage, it deals 4 damage instead?
August 23, 2015 2:03 p.m.
ComradeJim270 says... #17
That's right, yes. She is a tricky commander though because she costs a lot of mana to cast.
August 23, 2015 2:05 p.m.
Yeah indeed, would be difficult to get her out on the field.
Would most likely be worth more having Iroas, God of Victory as a commander, given the low mana cost and the (quite frankly ludacris) abilities he gives creatures under player control.
Thanks for all the answers everybody! Going to keep Progenitus in my casual deck as a table flipping wincon for now!
hempel says... #2
It is legal. But by dismissing all other color options you could play, your not using your full potential... But yes, very legal to do.
August 21, 2015 3:33 p.m.