What does being a basic land entail?
Asked by Minister_Crabtree 12 years ago
There are plenty of cards that change lands into a basic land, now does that mean that for example I have forests in play and they cast a creature that makes them all count as islands as well. Would I be able to tap them for blue mana?
Yes, in any case in which a land becomes a specific basic land type in addition to its other types it may be tapped for the color of mana that basic land would produce. It may also still be tapped for any color of mana which it was already capable of producing.
Stormtide Leviathan and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth are examples of these types of effects.
There are also cards like Blood Moon , which turns non-basic lands into mountains though not in addition its original land type. So for instance, if you had a Overgrown Tomb in play and your opponent has Blood Moon in play you could only tap Overgrown Tomb for red mana.
September 4, 2012 3:59 a.m.
can you clarify that? Because i don't think those effects mentioned will change a non-basic land card into a basic land card.
September 4, 2012 4:14 a.m.
To be more specific, Stormtide Leviathan and Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth at least do not turn lands into basic lands, but rather into the subtype of a basic land.
For example, using let's say City of Brass and Stormtide Leviathan . In this case City of Brass would read more like this:
City of Brass
Land - Island
Whenever City of Brass becomes tapped, it deals 1 damage to you.
T: Add U to your mana pool.
T: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.
September 4, 2012 4:14 a.m.
emrakool is correct.
To further drive home a point: Stormtide Leviathan , Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , and Blood Moon do not change a nonbasic land into a basic land.
September 4, 2012 6:02 a.m.
blood moon does. when there is- in addition to its other types-in the text, it makes it for example island, but it has its other abilities. but blood moon says only- are mountains-, not in addition to its other types, so a land changed by blood moon is just a mountain.
September 4, 2012 6:31 a.m.
Jarrod_0067 says... #7
OKAY! Blood Moon makes them Mountains, NOT BASIC - MOUNTAIN!!! It's like Badlands . Just because it is a Mountain, IT DOES NOT MAKE IT BASIC!!!
September 4, 2012 7:55 a.m.
hunter9000 says... Accepted answer #8
Being a basic land and having a basic land type are not the same thing. "Basic" is a supertype, and "Forest", "Moutain", etc are subtypes.
305.5. Land subtypes are always a single word and are listed after a long dash. Land subtypes are also called land types. Lands may have multiple subtypes. See rule 205.3i for the complete list of land types.
Example: "Basic Land Mountain" means the card is a land with the subtype Mountain.305.6. The basic land types are Plains, Island, Swamp, Mountain, and Forest. If an object uses the words "basic land type," its referring to one of these subtypes. A land with a basic land type has the intrinsic ability "Tap: Add [mana symbol] to your mana pool," even if the text box doesn't actually contain that text or the object has no text box. For Plains, [mana symbol] is W; for Islands, U; for Swamps, B; for Mountains, R; and for Forests, G. See rule 107.4a. Also see rule 605, "Mana Abilities."
305.7. If an effect sets a land's subtype to one or more of the basic land types, the land no longer has its old land type. It loses all abilities generated from its rules text and its old land types, and it gains the appropriate mana ability for each new basic land type. Note that this doesn't remove any abilities that were granted to the land by other effects. Setting a land's subtype doesn't add or remove any card types (such as creature) or supertypes (such as basic, legendary, and snow) the land may have. If a land gains one or more land types in addition to its own, it keeps its land types and rules text, and it gains the new land types and mana abilities.
305.8. Any land with the supertype "basic" is a basic land. Any land that doesn't have this supertype is a nonbasic land, even if it has a basic land type.
September 4, 2012 9:48 a.m.
Jarrod_0067 is correct. Oracle ruling for Blood Moon :
Non-basic lands that are turned into Mountains with Blood Moon are still non-basic. Blood Moon does nothing to change the land's Supertype.
September 4, 2012 10:10 a.m.
I believe you have misunderstood what the Oracle ruling means. Although the card remains a non-basic land, it still becomes a mountain (not 'in addition').
What this means is that a non-basic land turns into a Mountain, but remains 'non-basic', and a 'Legendary' land would remain 'Legendary'. It, however, does not retain it's abilities. This is stated in Rule 305.7 - "If an effect sets a land's subtype to one or more of the basic land types, the land no longer has its old land type. It loses all abilities generated from its rules text and its old land types, and it gains the appropriate mana ability for each new basic land type." (note the italicized portion)
For example, if a Pendelhaven were in play while Blood Moon were active, Pendelhaven would still be named 'Pendelhaven', and thus affected by cards that effect a card by name, such as Surgical Extraction . It also remains 'Legendary', so playing a second Pendelhaven would cause it to immediately become a mountain, lose other abilities, and then be placed in the graveyard (along with the original) via the legendary rules. It also remains a non-basic land, and thus it will be effected by effects such as Ruination .
However, it would no longer have the T: Add G to your mana pool; nor the T: Target 1/1 creature gets +1/+2 until end of turn.
iamMark says... #1
Yes if you where to play a creature that make basic lands count as islands as well they would be able to make blue mana as well as green if its a forest or black if its a swamp.
September 4, 2012 3:46 a.m.