M21 Shrines and other "Shrines"

Asked by StuPickles 4 years ago

Hi there, was looking into building a 5 color shrine deck seeing how there are technically 11 in total now. Honden of Cleansing Fire Honden of Infinite Rage, Honden of Life's Web, Honden of Night's Reach, Honden of Seeing Winds. as well as the new ones from M21 Sanctum of All Sanctum of Calm Waters Sanctum of Fruitful Harvest Sanctum of Shattered Heights Sanctum of Stone Fangs Sanctum of Tranquil Light

Now I pretty much know the answer to this question will be No, but im hopeful regardless because shenanigans. Do cards like Shrine of Boundless Growth Shrine of Piercing Vision Shrine of Limitless Power Shrine of Loyal Legions Shrine of Burning Rage count towards the number of shrines you control? Technically they are shrines and in the enchantments text, looking for "Shrines you control" doesnt specifically state whether it needs to be an enchantment or artifact, only that it is a shrine. I know this is a stretch but are there any other instances of cards that have a similar or relatable technical problem like this that it can be compared to?

Rhadamanthus says... #1

Unfortunately that doesn't work. All references in rules text to things like "creatures", "shrines", "elves you control" etc. are referring to objects with that type or subtype. The only time an effect will look at an object's name is if it specifically says something like "a card named [x]".

July 15, 2020 3:45 p.m.

Tylord2894 says... Accepted answer #2

Cards like Shrine of Boundless Growth are not Shires, and will not affect your "Shrine count".

Having the word "Shrine" in a card's name doesn't make it a Shrine in the game's eye. Similarly, a card doesn't need to have "Shrine" in its name to be a Shrine in the game's eyes. Sanctum of All shows this well. Sanctum will affect your "Shrine" count because it has the Shrine subtype (which is an enchantment type). Since Shrine of Boundless Growth doesn't have the Shrine subtype (due in part to it not being an enchantment), it will not affect your "Shrine count".

Hope this helps!!

July 15, 2020 3:47 p.m.

Rhadamanthus says... #3

StuPickles: Answers to your question have been up for a while. Since there don't seem to be any follow-ups or corrections to be made, I've marked one of the responses as the "Accepted answer" so that this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. Please remember to take care of this yourself in the future.

July 21, 2020 4:25 p.m.

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