Do the enchantments fall off?
Asked by MindAblaze 12 years ago
Let's say I control a Corrupted Conscience , have an Angelic Destiny in hand and a Spirit Mantle in the graveyard, and I control a lightjing greaves. If I cast Bruna, Light of Alabaster equip the greaves and attack, what happens?
Wolfking3000 says... #2
You throw all the enchantments on her during the attack step, hope they don't have instant speed removal and win the game.
April 4, 2013 9:19 p.m.
Zen_Toombs says... #3
Bruna's ability triggers. You can attach any of those cards to Bruna, because there's no targeting involves.
Bruna is unable to be blocked by creatures, and likely deals 10 infect damage, killing your opponent.
April 4, 2013 9:20 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #4
So the Shroud from the greaves makes no difference because you just attach the auras? They don't fall off?
April 4, 2013 10:13 p.m.
Zen_Toombs says... #5
For one, there's no reason they would fall off. If you can attach them, they can be attached. Enchantments/equipment only fall off if they lose the ability to be attached to... what they are attached to.
For example, you animate your Treetop Village . It's a creature, so you can equip Loxodon Warhammer . At end of turn, your Ape stops being a creature. Because equipment can only be attached to creatures, it falls off.
Another example is that Absolute Grace would make Unholy Strength fall off of a creature.
(Side note, that is why Animate Dead works so intuitively, but the text reads like a monster.)
Shroud means that the creature can't be targeted. However, Bruna's ability doesn't involve targets. It just skips to attaching things.
April 4, 2013 10:48 p.m.
And if it's the shroud from the Greaves confusing you, shroud doesn't cause auras already on a creature to "fall off," it just prevents it from being targeted by other spells and abilities (including auras) after it's attached. That's why if you're casting the spells manually rather than using Bruna's ability to attach them, you have to make sure to put everything you want on the creature before you equip the Greaves, because you can't target her after the Greaves are on. As mentioned, her aura-stealing ability skips the targeting.
It's protection that you have to watch out for. Zen_Toombs pointed out Absolute Grace causing cards like Unholy Strength to fall off. This is because of the protection from black.
April 4, 2013 10:54 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #7
The only time an Aura has a target is when it's being cast as a spell. Shroud or hexproof won't interfere with attaching an Aura some other way.
As others have mentioned, one thing protection does is stop things from being attached. If a creature already wearing an Aura gains protection from one of the Aura's qualities, then the Aura will fall off. If Bruna gets protection some other way before you attach Auras, then Auras she's protected from can't be moved onto her (they stay where they are).
April 4, 2013 11:22 p.m.
MindAblaze says... #8
Alright, it made enough sense it would just be a shame if my gut understanding was wrong and for some reason it didn't work, thanks guys.
April 5, 2013 12:46 a.m.
I'd just like to add that enchantments (before they were auras) actually did used to work this way. They constantly targeted the permanent they were 'attached' to (before that was a term) and if they ever became illegally targeted they were put into the graveyard (fell off).
In fact, the way protection works to this day is a holdout from those days, it's just now become the exception rather than the rule.
DaShPrime says... #1
I assume the Corrupted Conscience is enchanting your opponent's creature?
Bruna, Light of Alabaster 's ability has a "may" in it, meaning you can choose what auras you want to attach to it. You don't have to attach the Corrupted Conscience to it if you don't want to, although hitting for 10/10 flying, first strike, infect and with protection from creatures sounds like a pretty good way to win.
If I understand the question correctly, no, the enchantments do not fall off after the attack, they stay on Bruna
April 4, 2013 9:18 p.m.