I'd just call T1 "Best of the Best" as the very nature of cEDH is that everything is crazy powerful and those 15 just happen to be a bit subjectively better than the other 40 powerful legends in Tier 2.

I say subjective because we have no tournament results to base anything off of, just the experiences of an admittedly small group of players in cEDH.

Glad we seem to be on the same page though. I personally love the RC's approach to the format because it makes my 75% games where I'm chilling with my friends and other non-cutthroat players fun and makes sure that the potential explosiveness of the format is untouched.

Really though, just imagine how many cards could be unbanned if Deadeye Navigator went away.

Also, if RC is listening, please, not my baby. NOT MY BABY!

By my count, three.

Primeval Titan - Although the ban probably wouldn't be lifted if Deadeye Navigator was banned. I'm giving you this one for free.

Sundering Titan - Probably stay banned as well. Deadeye is just one bounce effect.

Sylvan Primordial - You know what, I give up. I don't think anything will come off the banlist if Deadeye got banned.

@iAzire probably why it's not banned then, lol.

Voting for a comment sweep lol

I know its probably not going to be in many (if any) optimal builds, but I really like Cataclysmic Gearhulk.

I also think we should have certain "gatekeeper" commanders to help define the tiers. For example, The Mimeoplasm could set the bar for what is consitered tier one.

Lilbrudder it fills daretti's grave while dealing mediocre- amazing damage. it isnt THE worst card he could slot in his flexes.

I think we are talking about different cards :-) I like the red one for daretti alot as well.

You forgot to add Storm Crow, it is easily tier one!

Indeed, also does anyone have a optimized Selvala deck

Lilbrudder oops we are. the cataclysmic one is a cool thing in standard, but he is outclassed in edh over other board wipes, like wog.

Hello this is a question / deck recommendation, to thegigibeast or NarejEDI have been working on a Yisan, the Wanderer Bard for awhile now, and after looking at the Yisan, the Wanderer Bard list you feature, I realized mine was probably better. Especially because it has a description. I was just wondering how you make the scroll downs in your description? Like when you click Tier one lists and a list pops down?Thanks Marcus Heres a link to my deck [http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tier-1-commander-deck]

The red one is absolutely bonkers in Feldon as well. Reanimating it every turn is just..... Mean

TheMarcus: Sorry, but no. I'll go over why, in no particular order.

• Vitalize and Mobilize are too win-more. If you're getting enough value out of them, you should've won already.

• Slow cards: Mosswort Bridge, Lunatic Flute, Elvish Harbinger, Fecundity ("Here you go Prossh!"), Thousand-Year Elixir, Birthing Pod, Ring of Three Wishes. You don't really need creature tutors (what does your commander do?), 10 mana tutors, or cards that probably benefit your opponents more than you.

• Realm Seekers does nothing useful.

• You have no stack interaction. If a combo deck goes off, you're dead.

• Now that I look at it, I don't think you have any instant-speed interaction. No removal, so if any combo deck starts to do anything, you can't stop them.

This deck isn't very good. It's slow, non-interactive, and is weak to powerful permanents. You can't reasonably beat any other tier 1 decks. We should keep Shaper's list.

Sorry for the double post, but I realized that the deck doesn't actually have a description yet.

Hotcake_Gotsyrup: Yeah its not great or even playable in most optimized decks, especially if you try to use it like wog, but an etb effect like that is extrmely abusable. Sharuum could probably do some stupid things with it especially in a build that has alot of blink effects. I am always happy when WOTC prints cards like this.

Leinahtan: Glad someone gave my some constructive critism, the only way to get people to help you with your deck is say it's super good! HAHAHAH

Also Realm Seekers will tutor up Wirewood Lodge and or Gaea's Cradle to combo with the Yisan 4 of Argothian Elder

Vitalize both increases mana signifiganty and untap Yisan, the Wanderer Bard I have used Vitalize with Eternal Witness, Temur Sabertooth, and Karametra's Acolyte for the game!

This deck does not run much interaction that is true, but most decks can not combo as consistently as Yisan. And alot of the time Torpor Orb, will screw me up. Also Krosan Grip isnt enough to beat most decks.

I realy apreciate the fact that you made an entire comment critisizing my deck, its realy heplful to know what people think. My games store is: Pats Games, Austin Texas, and my deck is extreemly competative there.

The ShaperSavant list uses stax effects like winter orb to stall the board and give you enough time to Yisan to victory.

It also runs a high density of artifact removal to power through any annoying permanents.

Perhaps good things to take away from his list.

Does anyone have an optimized Ruric Thar list? I have been trying to build it for days and it is driving me crazy. kthx

I think Darien, King of Kjeldor aught to be moved to tier 3, my little bro uses him and it can get out of hand rather fast. (though I play Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician so that probably has something to do with it...)

Does anyone have a Jhoria list? I'm honestly curious.

I decided to make everyone's head hurt again. Check out this video. Also, thanks to the cobblepott shoutout (Congrats, by the way ;) ), we can infer that this list has reached many people. The more you know :)

Also, I have not watched the video yet (only the pre-game stuff). For all I know, they may actually know what they are doing this time (though I HIGHLY doubt it :P ).

Yeah, that video made the rounds a few days ago on Reddit. The players forewarn that they're playing much more complicated decks than normal and won't be very good at piloting them. It definitely shows through misplays and slow play, IE the Karador player's Wayfarer tutor chain in the early game.

i saw this in the comments, but is it true that maelstrom wanderer is most competitive with 97 lands kikijiki and deceiver exarch? :)