Degenerate Allies (SOME turn 3 kills listed)

Modern* Dorotheus

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February Unbans —Feb. 14, 2018

No changes for JTMS and BBE getting unbanned. Please play your non-boardwipe 4cmc cards :D :D :D

shinobigarth says... #1

If youre doing allies and having black in it, you should strongly consider Kalastria Healer and maybe something that makes tokens like Gideon, Ally of Zendikar or Captain's Claws.

January 24, 2018 9:04 p.m.

Snivy__ says... #2

If you want some suggestions on how to make an Ally deck really powerful, check out my deck Mardu Allies Aggro which went 3-1 at my FNM only losing unluckily to Tron. It's really solid and doesn't run the Human AND Ally theme.

January 25, 2018 2:31 p.m.

Dorotheus says... #3

Then try mine if you wanna go undefeated :P

January 25, 2018 2:40 p.m.

Hunson_Abadeer says... #4

You're the man, Dorotheus!

January 25, 2018 3:32 p.m.

shinobigarth says... #5

Lol yeah undefeated against tier 4 jank

January 25, 2018 8:37 p.m.

Dorotheus says... #6

So you're saying Affinity, Tron, and UW Control are jank? Strange..

January 26, 2018 3:58 a.m.

Snivy__ says... #7

Those are all pretty easy matchups, i only lost to Tron because i got flooded...

January 26, 2018 10:50 a.m.

shinobigarth says... #9

Beating affinity or tron a couple times doesnt make a deck good.

January 26, 2018 12:57 p.m.

Dorotheus says... #10

Constructive criticism or bust.

January 26, 2018 3:01 p.m.

rothgar13 says... #11

I don't really think Aether Vial is doing very much for you. You're not a tempo deck like Humans or Merfolk, this is nothing but beat-face aggro, and you should embrace its identity as such. I'd trade those in for a couple of extra lands and maybe fill out a playset of one of your 2-ofs.

January 26, 2018 4:50 p.m.

Dorotheus says... #12

I didn't think so either and I really didn't want to get Vials, until I did a bunch of playtests with them, and Kabira Evangel is really the main cause for it. So now I have Vials that I got for cheap, which is actually the single most expensive set of cards I've ever bought.

January 26, 2018 9:39 p.m.

shinobigarth says... #13

did you get a really good deal on your Caverns, if your Vials were the most?

January 27, 2018 12:02 a.m.

Dorotheus says... #14

I've had 3 of the Caverns since they were in standard and I got the 4th in a couple of random packs I decided to open at a store cuz Avacyn packs were like $5. I have A LOT of modern cards that have more than doubled and some even tripled in their prices since I got them. Best example is Goryo's Vengeance at $8. Just a combination of luck and good investment choices.

January 27, 2018 12:17 a.m.

ROUROU says... #15

How about a Captain's Claws ? It's one of the sickest ally tribal cards out there !

January 27, 2018 10 a.m.

Dorotheus says... #16

@ROUROU (fight the power), I can at least respect Captain's Claws enough to try and own them, I do not at the moment, and I think I can at least try and playtest it in the correct scenario, but the biggest reservation is that they are indeed Kor Ally and not Human, which isn't the worst thing, but it also leans itself to a kind of grindy game.

Overall not directed at anyone in particular but I do believe there are unexplored combinations of Allies and Humans that might care more about color combinations or even value spells that would fit more in the themes of midrange, aristocrats/Rally the Ancestors where Kalastria Healer and Zulaport Cutthroat support that, game that lean themselves to more of that grind.

January 29, 2018 1:05 a.m.

ROUROU says... #17

Dorotheus DON'T!!! At three mana , it's way too slow... I tried playtesting it and it didn't work out. Keep the deck as it is . It's very nice and consistent!

January 29, 2018 5:54 a.m.

clayperce says... #18

Dorotheus,
Looking at some earlier comments, it looks like you used to run Collected Company? If so, did you find them not good or just not what the deck was wanting to do?

Thanks for your thoughts!

January 31, 2018 11:35 p.m.

Dorotheus says... #19

@clayperce I didn't own them but I did tests with them for a little while, they are terrible in a control meta since you have no way to always hit that 4 mana, and it's easily countered/exiled. Having the 5 color mana base for creatures is more of a priority, reduces countered spells and increases consistency.

HOWEVER, knowing what I know now if you wanted to gear it to be a Coco deck, you could, and I'd increase some of the 3-cost good cards, drop Scales and maybe drop some number or all Vials for 21 lands in total. Basically would be allies that plays a bit more like Humans does, more midrangey and grindy.

January 31, 2018 11:51 p.m.