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With your Zegana decklist inspiring me to go Simic, I've been playing with her as the leader for quite a few games. Only problem is, I think I wanna change it up a bit. I was having so much fun playing with the one one counter synergies, that I was wondering something. What's your thoughts on Vorel?
August 11, 2018 10:42 p.m.
hey you gave me a helpful comment on a deck a while back i have changed the deck a fair bit and was wondering if you would look at it again. https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/25-01-18-rhR-blue-black-control/?cb=1532038077
July 19, 2018 6:14 p.m.
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Well, satyr is not good enough to warrant an enchantment deck by itself. It is not the wincon you are looking for. However, I think any hexproof creature is a big payoff towards that goal. Currently, Palladia-Mors, the Ruiner, Vine Mare, Carnage Tyrant and Bristling Hydra are the best targets for loading up with auras for an alpha strike. If you combine any of the above with Onward // Victory, it is an instant win (vine mare and hydra may require an +1/+0 from an aura).
In short, no Satyr is not good enough. You need many other effects of the sort in order for an cnchantress deck to be born.
August 15, 2018 5:39 a.m.
I think I have an even better idea, which i have to say is inspired from the deck Tainted Love.
Tainted Remedy and Beacon of Immortality kills an opponent. But you can still run a cool WB deck with Renewed Faith, Condemn, Alms Beast, Swords to Plowshares (if you can cards from outside the modern pool).
It seems fair, cheap and sweet to do.
August 15, 2018 5:23 a.m.
I read the opener and was just thinking to suggest Second Sun Control from WOTC, with few upgrades. But if it is not something up your alley, maybe I can interest you in some combo decks? You have a severe infestation of creature decks in your group, so going against that grain can be powerful.
Do you have any format you play in, or is it jsut a casual format?
August 15, 2018 4:13 a.m.
planeswalkers are the best win con available in a stasis deck. If you want to keep it mono blue, add any jace. If you want to get out of the lock on your turn, add green and mana elves for accelaration and Garruk Wildspeaker to get out of the lock on your turn. You can add Fog variants to stay alive too.
Otherwise, this is the best stasis deck on TO:
August 15, 2018 4 a.m.
At second glance, a bit of polish needed, but otherwise superfine!
- 10 dredgers is too much. Cut down 2 mossdogs and 2 shells.
Cut the dark rituals too, there is nothing here you are accelarating towards.
- Add 2 Hooting Mandrills to increase your threat count.
- Add 2 Basking Rootwalla with the same intent.
I think that these changes will put your deck more aggressive, with even more must kill threats, which is a good direction to move towards.
August 15, 2018 3:12 a.m.
WOTC would say that they cheap out with bad cards in these products because they do not want you, the enfranchized player to get them. If the product had 2 ghalta and 2 Jadelight Ranger, the product would be like twice its MSRP in value from these two cards alone, making this an attractive product for enfranchized players. However, there are problems with this logic:
1/ The other cards are essentially bulk - nobody really wants them and they command a price that reflects that. So why did Wizards just not include all-jank cards and gave that products to LGSs to give out for free?
2/ If you include a lot of high value cards in highly produced products like New Player Decks, those cards will not be high valued for long.
3/ This product eats at the sales of other Wizards products - why would would you spent 15 on something that has 7 bucks of value in it, instead of a Challeger deck that contains numerous mythics and rares and has more value than its MSRP?
All of this leads to one conclusion and it is blatantly stated in the article reveleaing the product:
"This product will be sold ... at mass market stores like target and walmart" or whatever it said. That is the whole point of this product.
August 15, 2018 2:47 a.m.
The deck has way too few copies of some cards. You have literally 0 ways to use the ingested cards. Maybe run some processors like Ulamog's Nullifier or Wasteland Strangler to make use of the exiled cards?
August 14, 2018 10:50 a.m.
I am putting a comment to save this one for review later this evening, when I have more time. It looks good at first glance!
August 14, 2018 9:59 a.m.
I have added an initial sideboard and included Magus of the Moon. For now, the mainboard is subject to changes with Prototype and herbalists being on the chopping block. Another also mention Thud as a finisher for the deck, what do you think about that?
August 14, 2018 9:55 a.m.
Is it just me or is it weird to have an intro deck come out days after a new set releases only to see 2-3 cards from the newest set in it?
August 14, 2018 5 a.m.
Sardonic is a cool word, so anytime you could be, you should be.
But yeah - one player gets a ghalta and some chaff, the other player gets chaff. Weren't they giving these out for free at LGS?
August 14, 2018 2:32 a.m.
A card i did not think I would be excited about has turned out to be Goreclaw, Terror of Qal Sisma. The cost reduction ability is insane with cards like Myr Superion and its application for a budget modern deck. Hence:
August 13, 2018 10:08 a.m.
Those are some great suggestions and I am super grateful for this much help with the deck! I will test out what has been suggest ASAP. Out of everything you mentioned, moving towards Thud sounds like a super awesome to finish the game.
This deck is in early prototyping, so I will test out everything suggested and see what sticks best!
August 13, 2018 10:03 a.m.
Thanks for the suggestions, lagotripha!
Both are interesting options. If I had a Rhonas, it would surely be there as it works great with Servant and Bloodbraid. Bushwhacker does help a lot with giving all dudes haste for a very low cost, but I do not think it is super necessary.
This is just theory crafting for now. For example some questions I have for now:
- Hidden Herbalists are a great idea but there are only 4 fetches and 4 servants to trigger them. Is it possible they work well enough with just that?
- Is Collected Company or Atarka's Command necessary?
- How about Ghor-Clan Rampager?
- Is 4 bolts enough interaction?
- Sideboard for this deck?
- Is Fatal Push too ubiquotous to make this work?
But I like the idea of it for sure.
P.S. Another user on this site gave me the idea for this deck, but I have since made other comments and can no longer see who it is. I want to credit them with the idea, but my memory fails me. If you are reading this and looks like a deck that of yours that I have commented on, please PM me to properly credit you.
August 13, 2018 5:04 a.m.
Well, you have several more choices - Ostracize, Wrench Mind, Raven's Crime, . Personally, for budget costs, I would go for a mix of 3 duress and 2 distress, as a mono black deck will rarely have a problem with creatures.
August 13, 2018 3:50 a.m.
Vorel of the Hull Clade is interesting commander, much different from Zegana (though Zegana obviously fits the bill in the 99 of a Vorel deck, since you can double her counters before her draw ability resolves and double your card drawing).
From my view, Vorel in a control deck works with non-creature cards with counters that stifle the opponents, while developing a huge threat with his ability. For example, Astral Cornucopia is a great budget card for Vorel, while something like Mind Over Matter is a game-winner with the commander, combined with Otherworld Atlas to draw an infinite number of cards.
I personally feel that Vorel is a bit more restrictive than Zegana, since you have to play cards that work specifically with him, but is still a nice commander. Additionally, his abilities lead naturally towards infinite combos, which I am personally not a fan of.
Tl;dr: He is fine.
August 13, 2018 3:38 a.m.
I would not get brightling - a 1 of in a single legacy deck is never going up for that reason and brightling has no other reasons to see play.
August 13, 2018 2:36 a.m.
The other top tier decks are Boros Monarch, a midrange deck utilizing the monarch mechanic of Palace Sentinels to accrue advantage. Affinity, utilizing the power of Ancient Den and it is ilk. Tron is also legal and scary, and has a multitude of variations.
August 13, 2018 2:33 a.m.
I feel you need a couple more big things. A Stormsurge Kraken is cheap and effective and works great with zegana, drawing a bunch of cards on curve. Stormtide Leviathan is big and scary and cheap and counters ground creatures. In terms of no max hand size Praetor's Counsel is your go-to card - not only do you rebuy your counters, you do not have to discard them. Also there is a colorless mana rock that gave you no max hand size, but the name eludes me.
You can easily cut unimpactful stuff like high tide and paradoxical outcome.
August 11, 2018 8:32 a.m.
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