Rift Bolt and Insult
Asked by Zarathoustra 6 years ago
My whole burn deck was based on the idea to suspend Rift Bolts, then play Insult on the next turn before removing time counter from it and cast the spell in order to double the damage. Or even remove the counter but play Insult first.
Is it possible to do so ? Someone told me you have to cast Rift Bolt first, before you play anything else. That would make me sad.
Please tell me he's wrong...
Zarathoustra says... #2
So he's right... I play a mono red so Quicken won't fit unfortunately.
September 18, 2018 3:02 a.m.
Insult is a sorcery. You cannot cast sorceries outside of your main phase, when the stack is empty. Casting a rift bolt coming off suspend is done earlier in a turn, during the upkeep. So, no, it is not possible without other effects to cast Rift Bolt after Insult.
From a deckbuilding standpoint, you can use Quest for Pure Flame instead. Sure you have to deal damage four times to an opponent before you can use it, but this is the only way I know to double the damage at instant speed, which is what you need.
September 18, 2018 3:04 a.m.
Zarathoustra says... #4
Ok, makes sense... As a matter of fact, I'm already using Quest for Pure Flame, you say I can sacrifice it before I cast Rift Bolt from graveyard ? That would be awesome news.
September 18, 2018 3:07 a.m.
You cast rift bolt from exile, but yes it does not have timing restrictions on it, so you can use the ability before rift bolt.
September 18, 2018 3:09 a.m.
Just for future reference, for questions about rules, specific cards, or how cards interact, there is a rules Q&A forum that is pretty active. The modern deck help forum is for general deck advise, such as if you asked “is there a card that allows me to do this?”
I’ve taken the liberty of moving your post over to the rules Q&A section. If you could please mark one of the above users’ posts as the accepted answer, that will signal that will move your post from the unanswered section to the answered one.
September 18, 2018 8:30 a.m.
xaerusblade says... #8
why waste 3 mana to cast insult for additional unpreventable 3 damage.. why not suspend rift bolt and cast Skullcrack next turn for 1 mana cheaper?
September 18, 2018 8:11 p.m.
DragonKing90 says... #9
xaerusblade: because Insult doubles damage from ALL sources for the turn. this includes any additional burn spells beyond the Rift Bolt, as well as combat damage. so it can easily surpass the damage output of a Skullcrack
September 18, 2018 10:49 p.m.
xaerusblade says... #10
well usually burn decks can win with 1-2lands. and usually i would rather draw a burn spell than a 3rd land. just my 2 cents..
September 18, 2018 11:27 p.m.
Zarathoustra says... #11
I don't want to play the "usual" burn deck, that's the point. Insult allows insane damage and potential one-shots.
September 19, 2018 3:17 a.m.
xaerusblade says... #12
well if you really want to get away from traditional burn.. try Rampaging Ferocidon :)
Iehovah says... #1
You can use Quicken to make sure Insult gets cast first
September 18, 2018 2:59 a.m.