How do multi-faced cards handle being transformed?
Asked by BigBadE 1 year ago
Let's say I'm playing with The Prismatic Bridge Flip. Then, it gets transformed somehow (ex. Mirrorweave on a card with a transform/mutate ability). This would force it to transform, which is technically able to happen (I believe, correct me if I'm wrong). Then, some effect either bounces or flickers the card. Would I have Esika, God of the Tree Flip or The Prismatic Bridge Flip?
Also, what happens if you Mirrorweave a daybound card onto a transformable card during the night? Would it flip infinitely, due to it still being a copy (according to https://tappedout.net/mtg-questions/what-happens-when-a-dfc-card-copies-another-dfc-card-and-transforms/)?
A TDFC with daybound only transforms if it is on it's front face. If it's on it's back face and still has daybound due to being a copy, it simply remains on it's back face. The game will not become a draw. This scenario is actually quite easy to set up by having Ludevic, Necrogenius Flip exile a daybound card, as Olag, Ludevic's Hubris Flip would be a back face copying a front face.
9/24/2021 It's possible for Olag to become a copy of a card with the daybound keyword ability as it transforms. If this happens, it doesn't transform as it becomes night.
702.145c Any time a player controls a permanent that is front face up with daybound and it' s night, that player transforms that permanent. This happens immediately and isn’t a state-based action.
September 28, 2022 1:58 p.m.
Rhadamanthus says... #4
BigBadE: Answers to your question have been up for a while. Since there don't seem to be any more follow-ups or corrections to be made, I marked one of them as the "Accepted answer" so this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. In the future you can take care of this yourself using the "Mark as Answer" button on the response that you feel best answers your question.
Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #1
The rule quoted in the question you linked was 711.5, which has changed rule number to 712.5. With the addition of modal double-faced cards (MDFCs) they added the word "transforming" in two places to the rule. MDFCs can't transform and won't transform. If The Prismatic Bridge Flip is ever Flickered or Blinked Esika, God of the Tree Flip will enter the battlefield since DFC enter with their front face up by default when entering from a zone other than the stack. If the card is bounced you will get to cast it on whichever side you choose, just as if it were in your hand from any other way like drawing it or casting a Regrowth effect.
712.5 Only permanents represented by transforming double-faced cards can transform. (See rule 701.28, “Transform.”) If a spell or ability instructs a player to transform any permanent that isn’t represented by a transforming double-faced card, nothing happens.
712.10. A double-faced card put onto the battlefield from a zone other than the stack enters the battlefield with its front face up by default.
Hypothetically, if you could connive a way for a daybound card to be on the battlefield at night (cloning a daybound creature and waiting for it to become night for instance) and you cast Mirrorweave turning a transforming DFC into a copy of that creature, yes that creature would have to flip infinitely causing the game to end in a draw. This is convoluted enough that you are going to have to be trying to intentionally draw the game IMO, and there are easier ways.
September 25, 2022 9 p.m.