Thassa, God Of The Sea
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Posted on Aug. 27, 2013, 3:48 a.m. by IAmKingTony
Thassa, God Of The Sea | 2U
Legendary Enchantment Creature - God (M)
Indestructible
At the beginning of your upkeep, Scry 1.
1U: Target creature you control can't be blocked this turn.
As long as your devotion to blue is less than five, Thassa is a noncreature enchantment and loses indestructible.
5/5
Seems pretty strong, eh? A guy spoiled this a few days ago before we knew about "devotion", so it seems like this is legit.
BiggRedd54 says... #3
Even if she is just an enchantment, it's still a 3 drop that lets you get rid of dead draws and make your dudes unblockable. Seems good to me. The fact that she is a possible 5/5 indestuctible for 3 is going to drive her price up.
August 27, 2013 4:51 a.m.
Schuesseled says... #5
Well the wording is messed up, for example the ability should read 1U: Target creature you control gains unblockable until end of turn.
But the fact that this was spoiled before the other devotion cards, makes it more likely.
And yes she seems rather good, in the right deck.
August 27, 2013 7:24 a.m.
No, it shouldn't. You're probably confused, indestructible became a keyword, but unblockable became "can't be blocked".
August 27, 2013 7:33 a.m.
@Schuesseled, the wording for unblockable was changed with the release of M14 so this is actually correct
August 27, 2013 7:34 a.m.
Arachnarchist says... #8
MtG salvation confirmed it.
But the wording is a little off. She should be referred to as "Thassa god of the sea" in the third ability.
August 27, 2013 7:55 a.m.
Not necessarily, cards don't always refer to themselves using their full names, like Emrakul, the Aeons Torn . (The second and the last ability).
August 27, 2013 7:59 a.m.
Arachnarchist says... #10
Yes. But the first instance of the card name always uses the full name. Later instances use the shortened version.
August 27, 2013 8:03 a.m.
harrydemon117 says... #11
Makes Grixis midrange a thing with Master of Cruelties maybe?
August 27, 2013 8:08 a.m.
too strong for blue, if this is how theros gods will be like red god must be like 8/8 for 3RR (5CMC)....
August 27, 2013 8:49 a.m.
Stone_Munkee says... #14
If you don't like the top-deck, you can just put it on the bottom and hope for something better!
August 27, 2013 9:03 a.m.
ohhhhhhhhh! gotcha, i didnt know you could do that with scry. thats pretty sick then
August 27, 2013 9:20 a.m.
The first instance of the card name in rules text can now be an abbreviation, too. This is a recent rules change.
See rule 201.4c, which no longer requires a full reference to the card's name.
August 27, 2013 10:14 a.m.
harrydemon117 says... #17
Personally I like the "enchantment artifact" cards. HOPEFULLY one will be good for U/W Trading Post .
The diety cards just seem like icing on the cake...very versatile and can be used in aggro matchups due to the lower CMC (if they keep the theme up that is)
August 27, 2013 10:23 a.m.
Schuesseled says... #19
ahh my mistake yes it was indestructible = keyword, unblockable = not.
My bad.
August 27, 2013 11:04 a.m.
beakedbard says... #20
Wow i actually really like this card its got low CMC its a blue indestructible 5/5 with two quite nice abilities that will combo well. Even in the enchantment form its not bad and having devotion 5 isn't exactly hard in the right deck. I can't wait to see the other gods now.
August 27, 2013 11:48 a.m.
http://mythicspoiler.com/ths/cards/thassagodofthesea.html
August 27, 2013 11:55 a.m.
SharuumNyan says... #22
I'm hating this devotion mechanic. It makes this card basically unplayable in a control deck.
August 27, 2013 1:50 p.m.
SharuumNyan says... #24
Because having enough blue permanents sitting on the table to turn this into a creature doesn't really happen much in control where instants and sorceries make up a huge part of the deck.
August 27, 2013 3:16 p.m.
beakedbard says... #25
Control decks generally use more instances and sorcerys and generally have less permanents with so it will be hard to keep Thassa a creature. For this mechanic you generally need more permanents. I wonder how its going to work in other cases.
August 27, 2013 3:18 p.m.
Just in general, after seeing the spoilers today, including this one...
I don't know how strong these cards are going to be. There are some new mechanics that will take a little time for me to get my head around.
But man, I love the creativity and the flavor. I don't even play Standard anymore and I'm very excited about this set.
August 27, 2013 3:24 p.m.
Also, not every mechanic is meant for every different kind of deck. I'm sure control players didn't really have any thoughts at all about Battalion, for instance (chosen because it's in white, a control color). Unless things come along to make it different, you should probably look at Devotion the same way.
In other words, Devotion doesn't care if control doesn't like it. It's not meant for control.
August 27, 2013 3:27 p.m.
UmbrotheUmbreon says... #28
This thing is SO going in my mana ramp deck :D An indedstructible enchantment that can become a creature, scry, and make my beatsticks unblockable? Good lord what have Wizards done!? I'll be sure to get one :)
August 27, 2013 3:31 p.m.
SharuumNyan says... #29
I'm the opposite of you Barandis. The flavor and the new mechanics are not appealing at all to me. Modern format, here I come...
August 27, 2013 3:35 p.m.
harrydemon117 says... #30
Hmmm...I just thought of this...
Trait Doctoring could change the Devotion color to something else and then cipher itself onto a a creature (could be made unblockable by Thassa) to trigger each time it deals combat damage
Don't know what good that will do but something to keep in mind.
August 27, 2013 3:36 p.m.
beakedbard says... #31
It loses indestructible when it becomes an enchantment then again there isn't that much enchantment hate atm but i bet there will be when Theros comes in. I want to know what the other gods are like now. I'm guessing wizards are going to make all the gods indestructible as long as you have the devotion in the same sense as the divinity counters back in kamigawa i think it was. Seems like if that scry ability and the unblockable as well the others should have some nice abilities.
August 27, 2013 3:42 p.m.
I really expected that when Trait Doctoring came out there would have to be something to do with it. I doubt it's for anything but the kitchen table, but using it on Devotion seems pretty fun.
August 27, 2013 3:43 p.m.
SharuumNyan says... #33
I guess the one good thing about these "Enchantment Creatures" and "Enchantment Artifacts" is that if they ever do make it into Modern, they'll be great 2-for-1 fodder for 'Goyf.
August 27, 2013 3:46 p.m.
harrydemon117 says... #34
Just saying you could splash blue for Trait Doctoring , play U/R Aggro, change the color of Thassa to red, make her a 5/5 with indestructible, smash face. Basically a U instant for 5 extra damage
August 27, 2013 3:46 p.m.
This could be a great commander for Mono blue control. It's not to hard to get devotion 5 (Seal of Removal , Declaration of Naught , Flood , etc.), and it provides card quality. This is extremely relevant as it makes cards like JTMS, Brainstorm , and Ponder much better, while normally they are rather hard to justify in mono blue (besides jace).
August 27, 2013 3:55 p.m.
UmbrotheUmbreon says... #38
That's just insane. It's amazing what these guys will come up with
August 27, 2013 4:32 p.m.
beakedbard it looses it's indestructibility? why? isen't it indestrctible no matter if it's and enchantment or creature?
August 27, 2013 5:14 p.m.
UmbrotheUmbreon says... #40
That's what I thought. It doesn't say anything about it not being indestructible as enchantment only
August 27, 2013 5:18 p.m.
SharuumNyan says... #41
Question - a card with a blue Phyrexian mana cost (like Phyrexian Metamorph for example) would count towards devotion even though it's not technically a blue mana symbol, right?
August 27, 2013 5:29 p.m.
beakedbard says... #42
Oh fair now i re-read it yeah it doesn't. Well that makes it damn ridiculous. The thread needs to be changed a little. It makes me wonder even more how powerful the other gods will be and if they'll all be enchantment creatures in this way of have some other way of using the devotion mechanic.
August 27, 2013 5:41 p.m.
I do not even care about the creature. That scry 1 is insane. The 5/5 and other ability are great but the thing that really puts it over the top is that it is indestructible. NO this card is way to pushed.
August 27, 2013 7:30 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #44
I'm excited about this card for one reason: Commander.
Turn three commander that can't be killed cause its an enchanment? And when devotion comes online, it's still indestructible? Awesome.
August 27, 2013 7:47 p.m.
We'll probably have to see some rulings to be sure, and we'll also have to see about the way the final card is actually printed (the image is a mockup). That makes it hard to know the answer to part of your question.
It's really hard to know because there isn't anything in the rules right now that say "a Phyrexian mana symbol is a mana symbol of its color." I would hope that Phyrexian mana would count, but if the final product actually shows a blue mana symbol rather than the text "blue mana symbols," I honestly don't know whether it would count without rules clarification to that effect.
It actually doesn't matter in your case though, since a Phyrexian Metamorph copies the characteristics of whatever card it copies, including the mana cost and color. It would only contribute to devotion if it was copying a card with blue mana symbols in its casting cost.
August 27, 2013 7:53 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #46
Barandis and SharuumNyan, think about all the other symbols that are in question: hybrid, phyrexian, and those weird symbols you pay either 2 mana or the color. What about those?
August 27, 2013 8 p.m.
IAmKingTony says... #47
Hybrid counts as both so for example Frostburn Weird would give you two devotion to both red and two to blue.
Phyrexian counts as it's matching color.
August 27, 2013 8:52 p.m.
Schuesseled says... #48
This card just seems to be getting better and better, feels like a god-like mtg card to me.
Kudos wizards.
(If this thing isn't $10+ everyone should pick it up.)
August 27, 2013 9:25 p.m.
I'm just glad they used "God" as a creature sub-type, instead of making a new card type, or simply make Planeswalkers that are "Gods" on their plane.
August 27, 2013 10:29 p.m.
Mono blue aggro anyone? turn 1 merfolk, turn 2 tidebriknker mage, turn 3 thassa, turn 4 any blue permanent (trident) and swing.
MollyMab says... #2
I dunno about how playable it is. It provides 1 devotion to blue. It does synergise with the biddent quite nicely. It is a 5/5 for 3, who needs a lot of support. Like, you would have to wait till turn 4 at the earliest (with a god hand SEE WHAT I DID THERE) of 3 land, a 1 drop with U, a 2 drop with 1U-UU and another dude or card to make up the rest of the U.
August 27, 2013 4:43 a.m.