Miscut Prices?

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Posted on Sept. 2, 2014, 3:56 p.m. by ceji3

Thought this would fit under hear...

Anyway, i have 2 miscut cards from urza's legacy, and they both look like they came from the same part, as they have similar miscuts.

One, is Mother of Runes . The other is Wing Snare

and,

Ohthenoises says... #2

Usually miscuts are worth more when you can tell what the other card is. That being said, I'm no expert.

Epochalyptik would know better.

September 2, 2014 4:02 p.m.

mathimus55 says... #3

There's a guy trying to sell a miscut goyf for $1k and from the pics it doesn't look miscut at all. These are quite obvious. Mother of Runes I'm sure will get you a pretty penny regardless

September 2, 2014 4:42 p.m.

ceji3 says... #4

mathimus55

Yeah, mother of runes is 6 bucks normal, and i have a normal, and also this awesome miscut...

I think it's interesting that they both have the same type of miscut.

September 2, 2014 4:46 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... #5

Mother of Runes could be anywhere from $30-70, depending on who you find. $50+ is a pretty steep range, so it may take some convincing if you want to get that much out of it, but that's where I would start.

Wing Snare could be worth $10.

In these cases, it's significant that you can see a portion of the adjacent card, and that the alignment appears to be angular. Mother of Runes is a Legacy staple, so it gets extra value there.

September 2, 2014 4:47 p.m.

ceji3 says... #6

Thanks for the reply!

September 2, 2014 4:57 p.m.

quesobueno123 says... #7

ceji3 Where did you get them? They are pretty cool!

September 2, 2014 5:29 p.m.

ceji3 says... #8

quesobueno123

My brother, who hadnt played in 12 years, gave them to me. I found out he had an Ancient Tomb and these, and i was like, SCORE. unfortunately, he quit playing before onslaught. :(

September 2, 2014 6:32 p.m.

quesobueno123 says... #9

ceji3 Sweet if feel like donating them to someone i'm always up for free cool cards!

September 2, 2014 7:18 p.m.

Didgeridooda says... #10

Mother of runes is awesome. It is even better now that it is partially blue. - joke because blue is the best color*

Find the right person. I think reddit has a bunch of people who deal with the misprints/miscuts. If you can start a discussion, and get more then one person interested in it, you will find a better sense of what you can get for them.

September 2, 2014 7:29 p.m.

scopesightzx says... #11

I feel like this is a good place to ask my question then. From the first clash pack I got, all of my non-foil rares from the Fury deck were miscut (specifically, the top and bottom parts of the black border were miscut, with the bottom being thicker) For those who don't know, these rares are Courser of Kruphix , Arbor Colossus , and Genesis Hydra . Is there a standard price increase for a miscut of this type, or does it all depend on the card in general?

September 2, 2014 7:39 p.m.

@scopesightzx: Pics or it doesn't matter. There are a lot of people who claim that their cards are worth $20 extra for being misprinted when they're only shifted 1mm in another direction. Not to accuse you of doing that, but it's exceedingly difficult to place a real value on these cards without seeing them first. There's no flat ratio for these sorts of things.

September 2, 2014 7:58 p.m.

Didgeridooda says... #13

Normally if there is a border completely around the card, it is not valuable. Maybe a slight increase, but not too much. There are other things, but pictures would really help clear all that up.

September 2, 2014 8:03 p.m.

scopesightzx says... #14

It's a very minimal shift, I don't really have any intention of trying to claim they are worth more than a regular card. I would rather keep them anyway, it's a cool story that can come up during gameplay.

September 2, 2014 10:01 p.m.

Didgeridooda says... #15

scopesightzx I would keep them for sure. Some people might value them a little more highly then others if you do decide to trade them. Just did not want you having an unrealistic expectation. The prophet is nice in that though. Is that one shifted as well?

September 2, 2014 10:44 p.m.

scopesightzx says... #16

no, just those three I mentioned. I got three clash packs and it was only in the first one.

September 2, 2014 11:28 p.m.

Didgeridooda says... #17

ceji3 Just wondering what you ended up doing/finding out about that mother of runes. I am really curious as to how much collectors value that at.

October 8, 2014 7:09 p.m.

PreZchoICE1 says... #18

Epochalyptik if you wouldnt mind me asking you a question about a card I have.... I believe it to be a color error. It is a Basalt Monolith from Unlimited. It's really really dark- not only the picture but the whole artifact border around the card is not light brown like it should be but more of a very dark dark brown, almost black but in good light you can see it isn't quite completely black. I can't post a pic until a bit later but just going off the description could you speculate a bit?

I've seen other color errors on things like High Tide and Dust Corona so I have some experience, albeit minor, in properly identifying a color error.

October 8, 2014 8:08 p.m.

Didgeridooda says... #19

Unlimited cards are very dark, and the white border really can make them seem darker. If you post a picture, then it will be easier to tell if it is unusual. Alpha, Beta, Unlimited have an almost purple color to them. I would be interested in seeing it if you post a picture.

October 8, 2014 9:07 p.m.

Again, it's essentially useless to speculate on value based solely on description. I would need to see the condition and exact variance(s) of the card in order to give you a proper estimate.

October 8, 2014 9:11 p.m.

ceji3 says... #21

Didgeridooda lol i haven't looked into it much after this.

October 9, 2014 8:44 p.m.

ceji3 says... #22

Also, did anyone else notice any miscuts in their boosters in the pre release. I picked temur, had 2 slightly miscut cards maybe 3mm more on the top. someone i played said they had some as well.

October 9, 2014 8:53 p.m.

Didgeridooda says... #23

I was just curious how much that card would go for. Reg price is like 5 or so. So I was wondering if it was something like 10 dollars, or 20.

Epochalyptik assuming that this picture shows you all you need to see, what would you value it at?

October 9, 2014 9:21 p.m.

@Didgeridooda: I don't know. I haven't seen the picture yet.

October 9, 2014 10:05 p.m.

Didgeridooda says... #25

I am talking about the picture of the Mother of Runes above.

October 9, 2014 10:27 p.m.

$30-70 is my estimate. See comment 1:4.

The fact that you can see part of another card is very significant as far as misprints are concerned. Depending on what the back is like, you may have a page misalignment (cards were cut off-center) or a print misalignment (the front and back of the card don't line up properly due to a print error).

Because Mother of Runes is a Legacy staple, it has higher desirability than a misprint of something like Wing Snare .

Remember, though, that misprint values are largely subjective. Pricing is half intuition (knowing or reasonably considering what a certain misprint is worth based on the kind of error and the severity) and half marketing (convincing a buyer that your price is reasonable).

October 9, 2014 11:09 p.m.

Didgeridooda says... #27

That is true.

That is cool though.

Missed that valuation there sorry.

October 9, 2014 11:46 p.m.

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