Flowstone Embrace

Enchantment — Aura

Enchant creature

Tap: Enchanted creature gets +2/-2 until end of turn.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (4)

Caerwyn on How come we don't have …

1 year ago

I think the answer is simply “Enchantments* don’t have activated abilities with {T} as a cost”, whereas Lands do. Urza’s Saga does not technically have a {T} cost on the card itself - it confers that ability after the fact, and conferring abilities with a {T} is something Enchantments do with some abundance.

*Other than three fringe examples (Flowstone Embrace, Second Wind, and Witch's Mist) from Future Sight, a set which purposefully was showing things Wizards could do, but did not really want to, so it does not have much precedential value.

Tzefick on None

3 years ago

I really like the Shadowborn Apostle concept, so count me interested.

However Enchantments don't tap, with the experimental exception of Flowstone Embrace . I think it wont matter if you remove the tap cost. Pulling out multiple demons already seems very unlikely.

Now, to look at the strength of this card. What does this do better than Shadowborn Apostle ? It just requires creatures and not specifically Apostles to work, which means you can fuel it with tokens. However it costs 4 MV as initial investment and either 5+ turns of sacrificing or 10 MV in costs + 5 creatures to get 5 summoning counters to summon a Demon of MV 5 or less (as most Demons are MV 5+ and a few below which we generally don't care to fetch.)

It would seem this is largely inefficient at summoning Demons. And when you have, you still need to worry about the upkeep sacrifice. Shadowborn Apostle s have the benefit of fetching any Demon regardless of cost, and they are redundant (so you can easily replace them). They are also quite cheap mana-wise, only costing 7 black pips to fetch a Demon, given you have them in hand. The Apostles being redundant and being creatures you can also utilize a slew of cards that synergizes very well with the plan - like Remembrance , Secret Salvage , Immortal Servitude .

I feel like if this is supposed to work instead or in tandem with Apostles, you should make it stronger than it is. As it is, it is very slow and not very powerful in terms of cheating costs.

just an idea Show

The Darkmoor Coven

Enchantment

At the beginning of your upkeep, if you don't control a Demon you lose 4 life and put two Summoning counters on The Darkmoor Coven.

, sacrifice any number of non-Demon creatures: Put a number of Summoning counters on The Darkmoor Coven equal to the mana value of the sacrificed creatures.

Remove X Summoning counters from The Darkmoor Coven: Search your library for a Demon with mana value X or less and put it onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.

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I removed the sacrifice on upkeep as it would clash with the active and basically just force you to use the active to sacrifice your board to get better value. Instead it drains you and provides a passive means to put counters on it. If you already have a Demon the passive generation stops and you have to acquire the counters through actively sacrificing non-Demon creatures.

The first active ability is quite efficient at putting counters on the Coven. At first I had it just sacrifice a single creature to get its mana value in counters, but then it would still be largely inefficient compared to just playing Apostles. And you still have to get creatures with a high MV to get the counters to summon big demons. I was trying to find the good middle ground between being playable in a Shadowborn Apostle deck AND in a non-Apostle deck. As it only counts the MV, it also means sacrificing tokens is worthless - which makes it less broken.

You can only sacrifice non-Demons to avoid that in the face of removal, you just sacrifice your Demons and then summon some more. You can use it to "save" the value of non-Demons you control, but the deck is most likely designed around fetching Demons to do the heavy lifting and win condition so the non-Demons are mostly there as fodder. But nothing is to stop you from running good ETB creatures that can then be sacrificed to fetch powerful combat demons, say a Gray Merchant of Asphodel .

asasinater13 on From 75 To 1

8 years ago

future sight is not a good example of what should be done, yes enchantments can be tapped. No they should not have abilities that cause them to tap as an ability. It causes an issue between what is and enchantment vs artifact mechanically. I can say this from personal experience buying random future sight packs and being confused by Flowstone Embrace as a beginner. This is an important distinction to have.

Unforgivn_II on From 75 To 1

8 years ago

Enchantments can tap. Flowstone Embrace