Viscera and stacking triggers.
Asked by goldlion 3 years ago
I think I know the answer, but this also wouldn't be the first time I thought so but actually didn't...
Here's an example from my jank cEDH combo deck.
Viscera Seer, Mortuary, Fecundity and Cathodion are out. I could cycle Cathodion infinitely (for etb and death triggers of other things), but I wanted a mountain so I could play Goblin Bombardment.
Viscera's ability's cost is to sac a creature.... so, I cannot scry before the mortuary and fecundity triggers to find the mountain, correct?
Sek'kuar *Gravestorm* (optimized EDH)
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Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #2
Azdranax is absolutely correct, but I would like to go over why the scry is the last thing to resolve in a bit more detail. Sacrificing the creature is part of the cost of Viscera Seer's ability. When casting a spell or activating an ability the first step is to put that spell/ability on the stack. You pay costs later on in the process. Therefore the scry ability will already be on the stack when you sacrifice the creature and any triggers resulting from the sacrifice will have to go on top of it.
September 10, 2020 7:35 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #3
You will be able to find and draw a mountain btw. You will put Cathodion on top of your library, draw a card, add mana, and then scry 1 (assuming you want to keep the engine going and the mana could go anywhere in the process). Cathodion will already have been drawn by the time you scry, so you will be able to filter cards to the bottom until you find a mountain to put on the top. At this point you order the triggers so that you draw, put cathodion on top, add mana, then scry. The engine will stop at this point, but if all you wanted was the mountain in hand you have accomplished it.
September 10, 2020 7:41 a.m.
Oh man, apparently it was a late night! But this is why I wanted to build, play, and play against more optimized decks, to exercise the “stack” muscles.
Your the best, thanks Gidgetimer!
Azdranax says... #1
The Seer’s activated ability uses the stack, so the death triggers will resolve before the scry based on first in last out.
September 10, 2020 2:26 a.m.