Hexproof interaction with Equipment and Auras
Asked by joegy117 8 years ago
Lets say I have a hexproof creature X, and I cast an aura on X, can the aura be the target for a counter card (example:Pariah, the card description says that it comes into play attached to target creature)? Second question, can a hexproof creature that has an attached equipment (say Inquisitor's Flail) be the target of a destroy equipment card after it has been equipped (or even after the equip cost has been payed)?
The issue I have is with attached. When creature X (with hexproof)has an aura or equipment attached to it doesn't it mean that to play say Naturalize you need to target the creature it is attached to? I just don't understand how attached could mean "grants benefits to creature but not apart of creature". "Attach to creature" should be equal to "becomes apart of creature" I think.
February 20, 2016 12:46 a.m.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/daily-deck/modern-hexproof-auras-2015-09-04
This link seems to favor my argument.
February 20, 2016 12:47 a.m.
Raging_Squiggle says... #4
Let's define hexproof really quick: "this card can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control"
Slippery Bogle is an example of a creature with hexproof. If you attach an Ethereal Armor to it, that enchantment does not get hexproof. If you cast Naturalize, you're targeting the enchantment not the creature that has hexproof. Same thing with equipment. If you have Swiftfoot Boots equipped to a creature, you can naturalize the Boots because they do not have nor are granted hexproof.
February 20, 2016 1:04 a.m.
Raging_Squiggle says... #5
Also note that when the article is talking about "modern hexproof aura", it's referring to a type of deck, like when someone talks about "Modern Bx Eldrazi" or "Modern Affinity". It's not talking about any game interactions between the ability hexproof and auras.
February 20, 2016 1:13 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... Accepted answer #6
Bogles (the common name of G/W hexproof) has nothing to do with your question.
Raging_Squiggle answered your question, and answered it correctly. There is no debate here. Auras, Fortifications, and Equipments attached to something are not granted anything from that object unless one of the cards says otherwise. That is simply how the rules work.
If you would like a more in depth explanation with maybe citations or logic simply ask for it don't try debating rules.
Now to provide more clarification on your question. Only spells can be countered and spells are not attached to anything. So your question about an aura spell that would be attached to a hexproof creature if it resolves does not matter. Only spells that say they can not be countered can not be countered. For a logical explanation of why attached things are not granted anything from the creature think of someone who can turn only their own body invisible. They can not be targeted by anything, but if they are holding a weapon you can clearly see the weapon.
February 20, 2016 1:17 a.m.
Raging_Squiggle says... #7
I gave the Bogle as an example of a creature with hexproof instead of just continuously using "creature X".
February 20, 2016 1:25 a.m.
Gidgetimer says... #8
I wasn't speaking to you :) I type slow and had started typing before either of your responses. I was speaking of the link in "support".
Raging_Squiggle says... #1
Cards attached or equipped to creatures with hexproof do not grant those attached cards hexproof as well. They can be countered and/or destroyed because the hexproof creature is not being targeted, the aura or equipment is.
February 19, 2016 11:17 p.m.